dminus - multi with hotboy [Closed]

Tarzanchuck · Post by **Tarzanchuck** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:41 am

These are suspected Multis Alliance

Suspect users: dminus and hotboy

Game number: http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=140043

Hotboy had control of Europe and pulled all armies from Iceland and fortified other borders when Dminus had 7 armies in Greenland. Note all games hotboy is currently active in are with Dminus. A;so note time between logins for dminus and hotboy. less than 1 minute on a freestyle game twice.

Looks like a multi to me.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:17 am

i am sure its a multi. look trough hotboys games all with dminus
and they don't use the word "and" but use "&"

juventino · Post by **juventino** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:17 pm

I guess balla4life and littleseymour is on it too perhaps. But i dont want to cramp your thread here. But perhaps as so many times before "good friends" "playing togheter".. Well.. this is an interesting one!

Who is the highest ranked who have cheated? Or most "public" busted? SteveGriffith?

Ronaldinho · Post by **Ronaldinho** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:17 pm

Ouch he looks quit multi like although i wouldent like to judge :shock:

man he's almost General aswel if he gets busted he going to be PISSED lol

Tarzanchuck · Post by **Tarzanchuck** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:20 pm

Check out all of our discussion as well. Note how quickly hotboy replies after dminus does.
Hilarious! He got general right after he beat me in that game! He's currently ranked number 5.

Tarzanchuck · Post by **Tarzanchuck** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:30 pm

Check out all of the other games that they played together in. In every single game, one played within seconds of the other one ending and all were freestyle games. More than just a coincidence I think.

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=140045
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=140385
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=141804 http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=141858

AAFitz · Post by **AAFitz** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:11 pm

i dont honestly think that d, after a year in here, and almost a 1000 games, and more than enough ability to win without cheating...decided to create a multi, because he had to beat you

you want one explanation....hotboy knows d, wanted to play in his games, did just that, d won

ive joined over 15 games with d, he's beat me 4 or more times, and probably have played within minutes of him too....gotta love the notifier

like all claims, this will be investigated, but i dont thingk there is any way that d was purposely cheating

i do not know hotb, so i cant comment on his motives

A Mans Part · Post by **A Mans Part** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:16 pm

hotboy wrote:hotboy: next time you want to speak to me, raise your hand first, you little Bitch

from this game:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=140043#gmtop

dminus wrote:Next time you want to speak to me, raise your hand first

from this game:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=139802#gmtop

A shame. I liked dminus. I just saw that phrase yesterday because I noticed dminus had gotten another negative feedback and was curious about it. Must have stuck in my head.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:36 pm

Ronaldinho wrote:Ouch he looks quit multi like although i wouldent like to judge man he's almost General aswel if he gets busted he going to be PISSED lol

why is your sig gone?

The_Undertaker · Post by **The_Undertaker** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:50 pm

I have just finished a game with Dminus and hotboy. Freestyle game neither played at same time and oh who killed hotboy for the cards... thats right Dminus???? Game is 140234
Thankfully Dminus didnt win..... :lol:

A Mans Part · Post by **A Mans Part** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:52 pm

well, I think the whole point is for dminus to kill hotboy for his cards at the end.

Ronaldinho · Post by **Ronaldinho** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:52 pm

Wisse wrote:
Ronaldinho wrote:Ouch he looks quit multi like although i wouldent like to judge man he's almost General aswel if he gets busted he going to be PISSED lol

why is your sig gone?

Lol i think its time to stop pissing the living shit outta certain members and be remeber'd for my tatical ability on a risk board...And its almost a new year so new start lol. But for now Ronnie is gone im afraid

jaydog · Post by **jaydog** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:25 am

A Mans Part wrote:
hotboy wrote:hotboy: next time you want to speak to me, raise your hand first, you little Bitch

from this game:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=140043#gmtop

dminus wrote:Next time you want to speak to me, raise your hand first

from this game:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=139802#gmtop

A shame. I liked dminus. I just saw that phrase yesterday because I noticed dminus had gotten another negative feedback and was curious about it. Must have stuck in my head.

that is fairly implicating!
muliies are know for getting busted by slipps of the tounge on the wrong account.

i really do hope he's not, we don't need another steve griffiths

MOBAJOBG · Post by **MOBAJOBG** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:19 am

"TitusAli" is in every game that "dminus" has played. "TitusAli" is involved in a total of 14 games. So far, he has lost 10 and I'm sure you can predict the outcome of the rest which are still ongoing.

Enough said.

HolgerHerz · Post by **HolgerHerz** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:25 am

2006-11-25 15:46:49 - balla4life: eye84free your going to get destroyed and dminus is going to be general

this is from this game:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=116932#gmtop

and dminus is not on it.?

maybe they all know each other very well, live together in a frat house or something like that?

panicker · Post by **panicker** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:17 am

MOBAJOBG wrote:"TitusAli" is in every game that "dminus" has played. "TitusAli" is involved in a total of 14 games. So far, he has lost 10 and I'm sure you can predict the outcome of the rest which are still ongoing.

Enough said.

weird that in the 4 games still playing together they are they only 2 still to take there turns in the current round.

never would of thought it of dminus but the evidence is stacking

almost a general as well :shock:

is this the kind of bust multi hunters only dream of ?

RL_Orange · Post by **RL_Orange** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:43 pm

I have played many games with dminus in.....and believe me he doesnt need to cheat to win.........before you guys start, dminus and me have been killing each other on all opportunities we get to win a game.

So dminus, hotboy and the third one lets start a freestyle game again and lets have fun as always

RL_Orange
Martin

RL_Orange · Post by **RL_Orange** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:59 pm

Timing in freestyle games is essential..........to win you got to wait until the right moment you take ur turn, especially when the trade is getting high or in the event you notice someone is about to kill another. Many times i have stolen a kill that way and won the game. So if you see dminus play directly after another thats not a coincedence its a part of the game tactics. And for you newbies i am sure dminus is waiting, checking game status and decides to take his turn on the right moment.

You dont believe me? Just check on how many games dminus has ready status, is online (see the club forum) and is not taking his turn.

Btw. what do you guys think about the fact that a high ranked person is joining games with a lower rank players? Or even, like dminus does, setting up open games so anyone can join? Well for those who dont understand the ranking system, the difference between your rank decides how many points you lose or win. In fact this means for high ranks there is not much to win in games with a lot of lower ranked players and a lot more to lose.

The fact dminus is playing those games is more of an indication on how honorable he is in his conquer club games then the opposite.

The more i think about all this the more stupid i find this forum discussion. You guys got to be nuts to ruin conquerclub this way by starting these kind of discussions. If you think someone is cheating, be a man or a woman an confront the person involved and report him to an administrator. The last one can look into IP numbers and other stuff to find proof of someone cheating or not. If we go on like this i am sure in time we gonna lose the great players and in the end our conquerclub.

And if you think i am kidding, just check around what happend to msn gaming zone, riskII, and the warzone for riskII. The first no longer exists and the other has on average 30 players online. And bs like this kind of posts started the end of those sites!

RL_Orange
Martin

A Mans Part · Post by **A Mans Part** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:50 pm

I understand your points RL, and you know I respect you. I have also told dminus I respect his/her play and was trying to learn from them. You can see the positive feedback i left d just last week. The thing that got me was the use of the same phrase which happened to stick in my head from when I read it last week.

"Next time you want to speak to me, raise your hand first"

If they just happen to be friends who talk in the same manner, that is 1 thing (although that does not necessarily exclude cheating). Time and time again, we see 'honorable' players who do not need to cheat to win - cheating. Steve Griffith is a great example. Everybody knew and respected him. All of a sudden, he had 30 accounts up and running because he got bored. We will leave it up to the mutli hunters to do their job and leave it at that. If he/she isn't cheating, great, but nothing suprises me anymore.

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:19 pm

RL_Orange wrote:The more i think about all this the more stupid i find this forum discussion. You guys got to be nuts to ruin conquerclub this way by starting these kind of discussions. If you think someone is cheating, be a man or a woman an confront the person involved and report him to an administrator. The last one can look into IP numbers and other stuff to find proof of someone cheating or not. If we go on like this i am sure in time we gonna lose the great players and in the end our conquerclub.

And if you think i am kidding, just check around what happend to msn gaming zone, riskII, and the warzone for riskII. The first no longer exists and the other has on average 30 players online. And bs like this kind of posts started the end of those sites!

RL_Orange
Martin

It's the cheaters that ruin Conquer Club. If you don't cheat why should you fear being investigated? It won't ruin you or your ability to keep being a great player.

You say people should report the suspect to an administrator? That's the entire point of this board! If you think someone is cheating, you fill out the form and report it. Very simple process.

I know, I know- there are people you 'trust' because they are high profile and would never suspect them of being a cheater. That doesn't necessarily mean they are innocent (notice: I am not trying to suggest anything in this post). I am merely stating that high ranking players should be investigated just like the low rankers are. Being a good player doesn't mean you don't/can't/won't cheat, unfortunately. That's why the investigations and cheating/abuse reports board is a good thing.

Tarzanchuck · Post by **Tarzanchuck** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:54 pm

RL, I'm a new player here and so far am really enjoying it. At first, I thought they just had an unspoken alliance, because hotboy had control of Europe and fortified everywhere but Iceland, when dminus had 8 armies sitting in Greenland. He fortified about 9-10 in each of his other European borders. Seemed pretty obvious to me.

Then as I started looking at that game and at every other game they were in together, they consistently took their turns usually within a minute of each other, always in freestyle games. Seemed pretty obvious to me.

That coupled with the quote seems to me like he's a multi.

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:58 pm

RL_Orange wrote:Timing in freestyle games is essential..........to win you got to wait until the right moment you take ur turn, especially when the trade is getting high or in the event you notice someone is about to kill another. Many times i have stolen a kill that way and won the game. So if you see dminus play directly after another thats not a coincedence its a part of the game tactics. And for you newbies i am sure dminus is waiting, checking game status and decides to take his turn on the right moment.

You dont believe me? Just check on how many games dminus has ready status, is online (see the club forum) and is not taking his turn.

Btw. what do you guys think about the fact that a high ranked person is joining games with a lower rank players? Or even, like dminus does, setting up open games so anyone can join? Well for those who dont understand the ranking system, the difference between your rank decides how many points you lose or win. In fact this means for high ranks there is not much to win in games with a lot of lower ranked players and a lot more to lose.

The fact dminus is playing those games is more of an indication on how honorable he is in his conquer club games then the opposite.

The more i think about all this the more stupid i find this forum discussion. You guys got to be nuts to ruin conquerclub this way by starting these kind of discussions. If you think someone is cheating, be a man or a woman an confront the person involved and report him to an administrator. The last one can look into IP numbers and other stuff to find proof of someone cheating or not. If we go on like this i am sure in time we gonna lose the great players and in the end our conquerclub.

And if you think i am kidding, just check around what happend to msn gaming zone, riskII, and the warzone for riskII. The first no longer exists and the other has on average 30 players online. And bs like this kind of posts started the end of those sites!

RL_Orange
Martin

check the games of the newb and see that dminus is in every game, some joined dminus later than the newb and some joined the newb later than dminus, and think about this: people can change

Zackismet · Post by **Zackismet** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:01 pm

panicker wrote:is this the kind of bust multi hunters only dream of ?

yea... i can't believe i didn't notice that... I was checking out a bunch of high-level player randomly, that's how i spotted mm1987mm...

but this... i looked at him and pminus and didn't see anything, i just assumed it was all talent...

AK_iceman · Post by **AK_iceman** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:32 pm

If I was a gambling man, and I am... :wink:

I bet he's guilty.

LetGodSortThem · Post by **LetGodSortThem** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:33 pm

Also no defense presented...? dminus say it ain't so...

dminus - multi with hotboy [Closed]

dminus - multi with hotboy [Closed]

dminus a cheater

For the newbies and the comments about timing in freestyle

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