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Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:29 pm
by cena-rules
So, for those of you that don't know. Today a bunch of Muslims (now this isn't bigotry, it's simply the fact) burnt a giant poppy in the middle of london at 11am, coinciding with the 2 minutes silence for remembrance day.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8126357/Muslims-clash-with-police-after-burning-poppy-in-anti-Armistice-Day-protest.html Now, I am of the belief that if they don't like what our army has done, then they can f*ck right off out of our country.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328703/Remembrance-Day-Poppy-burning-Muslim-protesters-mar-Armistice-Day.htmlThat contains some of the disgusting slogans that these disrespectful little tossers were carrying today
At the end of the day, the people they disrespected died so that they are able to live in our country, work in our country and died for their freedom to express their own religion.
So if they want to do this, then the Koran burning is obviously allowed.
Bunch of fucking mugs!
ENGLISH AND PROUD!
11/11 - ALWAYS REMEMBERED
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:42 pm
by nietzsche
If you send me a Koran I will burn it for you and post it in youtube. I cannot burn a bible tho, my family would hate me. In case Pirlo read this: I'm only joking.
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:15 pm
by john9blue
cena-rules wrote:(now this isn't bigotry, it's simply the fact)
it's really sad that people have to say this nowadays in order to avoid accusations of bigotry
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:17 pm
by 2dimes
They should clearly be deported as they don't represent Islam or the UK. All in favour?
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:51 pm
by Phatscotty
If you look at it from the angle of "They are using our rules against us, and have plenty of leftist support" it actually makes sense....
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:54 pm
by nagerous
A group of 50 muslims is not indicative of the wider populace, the average quiet peaceful muslim family who will now feel terrorised by the hate and vitriol they will now see posted on newspapers like the daily mail. There are radicals in all fields of life and now unfortunately due to actions of a small minority there are going to be numerous rammifications.
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:01 pm
by Phatscotty
nagerous wrote:A group of 50 muslims is not indicative of the wider populace, the average quiet peaceful muslim family who will now feel terrorised by the hate and vitriol they will now see posted on newspapers like the daily mail. There are radicals in all fields of life and now unfortunately due to actions of a small minority there are going to be numerous rammifications.
You guys still playing pretend over there? Sucks cuz you are our last best ally. Those guys are pretty smart ya know.
Rome Burns
Here in my state, mosques have went from 50 something 10 years ago to over 2,000
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:15 pm
by Pedronicus
I am unable to comment on this topic because I will receive a 7 day forum ban
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:34 pm
by Frigidus
Phatscotty wrote:nagerous wrote:A group of 50 muslims is not indicative of the wider populace, the average quiet peaceful muslim family who will now feel terrorised by the hate and vitriol they will now see posted on newspapers like the daily mail. There are radicals in all fields of life and now unfortunately due to actions of a small minority there are going to be numerous rammifications.
You guys still playing pretend over there? Sucks cuz you are our last best ally. Those guys are pretty smart ya know.
Rome Burns
Here in my state, mosques have went from 50 something 10 years ago to over 2,000
Oh God, not places of worship!
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:51 pm
by PLAYER57832
cena-rules wrote:
At the end of the day, the people they disrespected died so that they are able to live in our country, work in our country and died for their freedom to express their own religion.
Just want to clarify, this is not about the remembrance. The burning was not against soldiers. Apparently, poppies mean one thing to the British and something else entirely to Arabs. Poppies and the opium trade were apparently heavily involved in the British Empire's takeover, some say exploitation of various Asian regions.
cena-rules wrote: So if they want to do this, then the Koran burning is obviously allowed.
And how is that going to help anything?
I don't think burning a poppy was a great thing, but education seems to be the answer. Probably education on both sides.
cena-rules wrote:
ENGLISH AND PROUD!
11/11 - ALWAYS REMEMBERED
You have every right to be proud, of course.
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:04 pm
by Phatscotty
Frigidus wrote:Phatscotty wrote:nagerous wrote:A group of 50 muslims is not indicative of the wider populace, the average quiet peaceful muslim family who will now feel terrorised by the hate and vitriol they will now see posted on newspapers like the daily mail. There are radicals in all fields of life and now unfortunately due to actions of a small minority there are going to be numerous rammifications.
You guys still playing pretend over there? Sucks cuz you are our last best ally. Those guys are pretty smart ya know.
Rome Burns
Here in my state, mosques have went from 50 something 10 years ago to over 2,000
Oh God, not places of worship!
.
or, perhaps just an example of rapid growth.
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:14 pm
by BIGMEANIE
disgusting.
can't imagine how those police officers feel having to protect and escort these boneheads.
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:22 pm
by john9blue
Frigidus wrote:Phatscotty wrote:nagerous wrote:A group of 50 muslims is not indicative of the wider populace, the average quiet peaceful muslim family who will now feel terrorised by the hate and vitriol they will now see posted on newspapers like the daily mail. There are radicals in all fields of life and now unfortunately due to actions of a small minority there are going to be numerous rammifications.
You guys still playing pretend over there? Sucks cuz you are our last best ally. Those guys are pretty smart ya know.
Rome Burns
Here in my state, mosques have went from 50 something 10 years ago to over 2,000
Oh God, not places of worship!
As long as they aren't Christian churches, right Frig? Because those are just
evil.
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:49 am
by Army of GOD
Actually, Jewish Temples are the places of evil!!! (I'M SUBBING IN FOR BBS SO ITS OK!!!!)
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:06 am
by trinicardinal
The problem is there are at least 2 sides to every story and extremists all over the place... and every extremist just makes matters worse imho. Good for one person may be bad for another. Perspective always makes a difference. The problem is that fundamentalists generally carry things too far and there is no portrayal of why they feel the way they feel .... generally its just hate which begets more hate!
PLAYER57832 wrote:cena-rules wrote:
At the end of the day, the people they disrespected died so that they are able to live in our country, work in our country and died for their freedom to express their own religion.
Just want to clarify, this is not about the remembrance. The burning was not against soldiers. Apparently, poppies mean one thing to the British and something else entirely to Arabs. Poppies and the opium trade were apparently heavily involved in the British Empire's takeover, some say exploitation of various Asian regions.
cena-rules wrote: So if they want to do this, then the Koran burning is obviously allowed.
And how is that going to help anything?
I don't think burning a poppy was a great thing, but education seems to be the answer. Probably education on both sides.
cena-rules wrote:
ENGLISH AND PROUD!
11/11 - ALWAYS REMEMBERED
You have every right to be proud, of course.
In essence, I agree with PLAYER 57832 here
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:44 am
by Johnny Rockets
It's hard not to call bullshit.
Poppies may mean something different to those burning them, but they CHOSE November 11th to do it on for the sensationalism.
Well f*ck them for their insensitivity. This kind of backlash, ignorant or otherwise was expected and welcomed by those planning it.
I can't go and burn a Koran in the middle of Masjid al-Harām in Makkah on Laylat al-Qadr then fall back on that I'm protesting all organized religion. Then berate those who protest my actions that they should be more open minded and tolerant when I choose to settle in their country.
JRockets
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:57 am
by Baron Von PWN
Phatscotty wrote:nagerous wrote:A group of 50 muslims is not indicative of the wider populace, the average quiet peaceful muslim family who will now feel terrorised by the hate and vitriol they will now see posted on newspapers like the daily mail. There are radicals in all fields of life and now unfortunately due to actions of a small minority there are going to be numerous rammifications.
You guys still playing pretend over there? Sucks cuz you are our last best ally. Those guys are pretty smart ya know.
Rome Burns
Here in my state, mosques have went from 50 something 10 years ago to over 2,000
So are you saying a significant number of British Muslims automatically agree with the 34 guys who burned a poppy? Or that 34 people holding extreme beliefs is somehow an indication of the fall of Britain?
You also seem to be implying an increase in Muslims in your state is something to be feared.
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:24 am
by muy_thaiguy
Johnny Rockets wrote:It's hard not to call bullshit.
Poppies may mean something different to those burning them, but they CHOSE November 11th to do it on for the sensationalism.
Well f*ck them for their insensitivity. This kind of backlash, ignorant or otherwise was expected and welcomed by those planning it.
I can't go and burn a Koran in the middle of Masjid al-Harām in Makkah on Laylat al-Qadr then fall back on that I'm protesting all organized religion. Then berate those who protest my actions that they should be more open minded and tolerant when I choose to settle in their country.
JRockets
This pretty much says how I feel on the topic.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:17 pm
by 2dimes
PLAYER57832 wrote:cena-rules wrote:
At the end of the day, the people they disrespected died so that they are able to live in our country, work in our country and died for their freedom to express their own religion.
Just want to clarify, this is not about the remembrance. The burning was not against soldiers. Apparently, poppies mean one thing to the British and something else entirely to Arabs. Poppies and the opium trade were apparently heavily involved in the British Empire's takeover, some say exploitation of various Asian regions.
Thank you for clarifying these points. As allways your knowlege and insight to the things only you and the intellectual elite are privy to has helped to correct the missinformed. I just can't wait for you to clarify the sign that read, "British soldiers burn in hell!"
Re:
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:58 pm
by GreecePwns
2dimes wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:cena-rules wrote:
At the end of the day, the people they disrespected died so that they are able to live in our country, work in our country and died for their freedom to express their own religion.
Just want to clarify, this is not about the remembrance. The burning was not against soldiers. Apparently, poppies mean one thing to the British and something else entirely to Arabs. Poppies and the opium trade were apparently heavily involved in the British Empire's takeover, some say exploitation of various Asian regions.
Thank you for clarifying these points. I just can't wait for you to clarify the sign that read, "British soldiers burn in hell!"
Because no matter what good soldiers bring to a nation, all major religion believe that killing someone will send you to hell.
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:01 pm
by 2dimes
You're signed into the wrong account P.
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:07 pm
by GreecePwns
Oh, okay. You got me there. Good point.
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:12 pm
by DAZMCFC
nagerous wrote:A group of 50 muslims is not indicative of the wider populace, the average quiet peaceful muslim family who will now feel terrorised by the hate and vitriol they will now see posted on newspapers like the daily mail. There are radicals in all fields of life and now unfortunately due to actions of a small minority there are going to be numerous rammifications.
surely then Nag it is time for ALL the peaceful muslim family to stand up and be counted. they either want to be part of the British culture(I'm not saying denounce all links to Pakistan) or they don't. why don't they have a rally supporting the British troops. I won't hold my breath, because then the extremists will attack them.
but...
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:24 pm
by 2dimes
The common rumour floating around about the suicide bomber dudes is the promise of "A trip to paradise with the prize of one virgin per infedel they take with them."
How does that fit in with, "all major religion believe that killing someone will send you to hell." and why doesn't the sign clearify. "Soldiers that killed" as opposed to just "British" ones.
Re: Poppy Burning
Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:42 pm
by ViperOverLord
Speaking of Poppy burning, anybody see Poppy get fired on the apprentice last night? It was sad. She was the most likeable player.