In Illinois, you can't film you own arrest. You have to make sure you get permission from police officers. What happens if they refuse?
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:19 am
by Swimmerdude99
Thats messed up. What if a officer does something to a girl inapropriate and claims rape or sexual abuse... but if she tries to produce evidence she gets in trouble? :/ I don't like where this could possibly lead.
In Illinois, you can't film you own arrest. You have to make sure you get permission from police officers. What happens if they refuse?
See, this is what you don't understand...this is a very important law! Without this law, when the cop turns off his vehicle camera, he might get in trouble or something!
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:58 am
by phantomzero
Although law-enforcement officials can legally record civilians in private or public, audio-recording a law-enforcement officer, state’s attorney, assistant state’s attorney, attorney general, assistant attorney general or judge in the performance of his or her duties is a Class 1 felony, punishable by up to 15 years in prison.
In Illinois, you can't film you own arrest. You have to make sure you get permission from police officers. What happens if they refuse?
See, this is what you don't understand...this is a very important law! Without this law, when the cop turns off his vehicle camera, he might get in trouble or something!
Then why word it so that citizens can't film?
phantomzero wrote:
Although law-enforcement officials can legally record civilians in private or public, audio-recording a law-enforcement officer, state’s attorney, assistant state’s attorney, attorney general, assistant attorney general or judge in the performance of his or her duties is a Class 1 felony, punishable by up to 15 years in prison.
Lol, who do you think wrote the law?
I think someone is on to something here.
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:26 am
by tkr4lf
Haha, this is bullshit. We're coming closer and closer to a police state every day.
It's funny, I just watched V For Vendetta again tonight...why does this situation remind me of that movie?
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:09 am
by TA1LGUNN3R
Who actually supports such laws? I'm wondering what kind of person would support such a grossly abusive law?
-TG
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:21 am
by jonesthecurl
Doesn't that make the TV news illegal? Or do they always get the consent of every passer-by?
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:50 am
by Swimmerdude99
jonesthecurl wrote:Doesn't that make the TV news illegal? Or do they always get the consent of every passer-by?
Thats a good point. It needs to spread across all areas or none at all.
In Illinois, you can't film you own arrest. You have to make sure you get permission from police officers. What happens if they refuse?
See, this is what you don't understand...this is a very important law! Without this law, when the cop turns off his vehicle camera, he might get in trouble or something!
Then why word it so that citizens can't film?
You seem to have overlooked my sarcasm...I must not have been clear enough with it. Sorry about that.
In Illinois, you can't film you own arrest. You have to make sure you get permission from police officers. What happens if they refuse?
See, this is what you don't understand...this is a very important law! Without this law, when the cop turns off his vehicle camera, he might get in trouble or something!
Then why word it so that citizens can't film?
You seem to have overlooked my sarcasm...I must not have been clear enough with it. Sorry about that.
Throw me a wink or somethin!!!
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:53 pm
by PLAYER57832
jonesthecurl wrote:Doesn't that make the TV news illegal? Or do they always get the consent of every passer-by?
This applies only to police officers, not the general public.
As a practical point, police can tell media folks to leave/stop taping basically whenever they wish. Average people generally can only ask them to leave private property, not forbid taping from public areas. I HOPE this is seen as stepping to far, but fear it will be "justified".
This touches on something that actually does need to change. I don't think a passerby or Googleearth, for that matter, ought to be able to look down onto someone's private patio or hedged yard, never mind in someone's window. BUT..that would be an entirely different thread.
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:26 pm
by Woodruff
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Who actually supports such laws? I'm wondering what kind of person would support such a grossly abusive law?
Law enforcement, of course. There is now serious discussion of 5,000 spy drones in American airspace within 5 years. For law enforcement, of course.
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:42 pm
by tkr4lf
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:11 am
by PLAYER57832
Woodruff wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Who actually supports such laws? I'm wondering what kind of person would support such a grossly abusive law?
Law enforcement, of course. There is now serious discussion of 5,000 spy drones in American airspace within 5 years. For law enforcement, of course.
Yes, but also the bullies that control law enforcement and who are convinced they can use this to control the "errant population" while they themselves will remain insulated.
If you don't believe me, you have not been to many small town council meetings .
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:39 pm
by Nola_Lifer
Woodruff wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Who actually supports such laws? I'm wondering what kind of person would support such a grossly abusive law?
Law enforcement, of course. There is now serious discussion of 5,000 spy drones in American airspace within 5 years. For law enforcement, of course.
I saw that. I thought drones were used in assassination attempts. What will they be used for? Speeding tickets? Spying in general?
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:56 pm
by Woodruff
Nola_Lifer wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Who actually supports such laws? I'm wondering what kind of person would support such a grossly abusive law?
Law enforcement, of course. There is now serious discussion of 5,000 spy drones in American airspace within 5 years. For law enforcement, of course.
I saw that. I thought drones were used in assassination attempts. What will they be used for? Speeding tickets? Spying in general?
Assassination attempts? (Don't look at me like that...I am serious.)
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:11 am
by BigBallinStalin
tkr4lf wrote:
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.
Gee, that's a long time!
Re: Eavesdropping Law
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:58 am
by jonesthecurl
PLAYER57832 wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Doesn't that make the TV news illegal? Or do they always get the consent of every passer-by?
This applies only to police officers, not the general public.
As a practical point, police can tell media folks to leave/stop taping basically whenever they wish. Average people generally can only ask them to leave private property, not forbid taping from public areas. I HOPE this is seen as stepping to far, but fear it will be "justified".
This touches on something that actually does need to change. I don't think a passerby or Googleearth, for that matter, ought to be able to look down onto someone's private patio or hedged yard, never mind in someone's window. BUT..that would be an entirely different thread.
Nope.
The Illinois Eavesdropping Act has been on the books for years. It makes it a criminal offense to audio-record either private or public conversations without the consent of all parties, Mr. Schwartz said. Audio-recording a civilian without consent is a Class 4 felony, punishable by up to three years in prison for a first-time offense. A second offense is a Class 3 felony with a possible prison term of five years.
Although law-enforcement officials can legally record civilians in private or public, audio-recording a law-enforcement officer, state’s attorney, assistant state’s attorney, attorney general, assistant attorney general or judge in the performance of his or her duties is a Class 1 felony, punishable by up to 15 years in prison.