Gen.LeeGettinhed [Closed] DCR

[Shai]

Accused:

[player]Gen.LeeGettinhed[/player]


The accused are suspected of:

Other: Point harvesting
Gen.LeeGettinhed is creating private freestyle speedgames and gets noobs to join to just take their points...
Great way to notch top spot with over 80% winning rate...



Game number(s):

Game 10742454
Game 10741441
Game 10669544
Game 10587777


Comments:
I actually never post to Foroms, and I'm half guessing this was already posted, though I couldn't find it

[jefjef]

I'm half guessing this was already posted

Yes there have been a few complaints in re of GLG and his games. He is not violating any rules.

[DJPatrick]

Shai...BOOKS have been written on the subject...
Now if you could get those 'Invisible Children' guys to go viral on the subject ...i.e. GLG 2012....even the cc mods wold have to take notice of "War Crimes"...just a thort...

[TheGeneral2112]

Shai...BOOKS have been written on the subject...
Now if you could get those 'Invisible Children' guys to go viral on the subject ...i.e. GLG 2012....even the cc mods wold have to take notice of "War Crimes"...just a thort...

[spoiler=I support Kony being re-elected.][/spoiler]

[DJPatrick]

that's just being flippant...just like GLG Kony leads a protected life (ref Game 6132601...altho that may well have been his father missing turns)...

[eddie2]

that's just being flippant...just like GLG Kony leads a protected life (ref Game 6132601...altho that may well have been his father missing turns)...

dj wrong game no you need this 1.Game 2921004 ps it has been more than a week since lack made his comment in c and a.... i do hope admin have a meeting at least once a week. if they do after lacks last comment this might actually be against the rules now.

[DJPatrick]

LOL...Eddie, you're always too serious...the game ref I mentioned was when KONY fled the childrens army and turned up in that refuge of scoundrels the good ol USA...he was obviously bored with no throats to cut and joined cc but missed too many turns and was kicked when he realized it was only VIRTUAL war...as to Lack's coments and possible change, I wouldn't know...too much BS goes on here so I just kill weak dicks like you on Feudal Term and pretend all is rosey,,,lol...gl with your crusade but like SHAI will realize sometimes the obvious just rolls on,,,and on...and on....

[deathcomesrippin]

Post on topic or not at all, please.

[Gen.LeeGettinhed]

disagree - Forum asks for you to be sure to read Old Posts before starting new ones

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[eddie2]

yep read other case what i read is this from lackattack....

I take the integrity of the game quite seriously, and I do care about our members opinions. I don't like it either when our Conqueror gets his points from cheap tactics. We just don't have a solution yet. Once again we spent quite a bit of time this morning discussing farming and ranching during the admin meeting. I've recently made improvements to the anti-farming ban, and there are more measures coming soon to protect new recruits. As king achilles has pointed out many times, it is very tricky to make rules against taking advantage of lower ranks because it is very hard to draw a line between abuse and normal playing. If you have any suggestions on how to enforce a ranching rule in a practical way we would love to hear them. In the meantime I'm looking into changing the join a game pages to show new games first, to discourage ranching, but there are serious issues I need to iron out (i.e. will most games still fill?, what to do with games that never fill?).

that was close to 2 weeks ago so someone else tried making a case again this i can see happening every couple of weeks until it is brought in.

[Chariot of Fire]

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[lanyards]

They would at least publicly announce the change in rules before enforcing them.

[betiko]

zzzzzzzzz

[eddie2]

They would at least publicly announce the change in rules before enforcing them.

lack did in the post he made... he all but said it is going to be against the rules they are just working out how to bring it in a fair way.

[Gen.LeeGettinhed]

Reminders to thread creator:
-read old threads for similar treads before creating new ones
-be sure you understand the rules before accusing someone of breaking rules

FYI: note from King Achilles to GLG:
"What they see in you is that you are only specifically playing/targeting low ranked or 'fresh' newly graduated new recruits."
1) I rarely play a newly graduated new recruit. I've provided details of my last ~40 games (exlcuding large clan games) -- completed games at time of check:
-1254 was average, 436 was median -- hardly "newly graduated"
-bottom 4: 24, 60, 98, 98 -- again, other 44 (90%) hardly "newly graduated"
2) It's been over 2 years since I played a ?-new-recruit something often complained about -- ALTHOUGH I AM ALLOWED TO PLAY THEM
3) they ignore mention that after I quit playing ?-new-recruits, I quit playing cooks, and then Cadets* -- and now playing fewer Privates. Definitely making progress on increasing my opponent rank (* "quit" as in playing regularly; sometimes one in team games).

Opponents have lied about and/or exaggerated claims of my style. I recommend Management:
- get FACTS before bending to the cries of those people -- and punish false accusers
- get a MUCH more broad-based sample of site concern levels. If leaders only listened to the vocal few, there would still be Salem Witch Trials.

GLG

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[deathcomesrippin]

Reminders to thread creator:
-read old threads for similar treads before creating new ones
-be sure you understand the rules before accusing someone of breaking rules

FYI: note from King Achilles to GLG:
"What they see in you is that you are only specifically playing/targeting low ranked or 'fresh' newly graduated new recruits."
1) I rarely play a newly graduated new recruit. I've provided details of my last ~40 games (exlcuding large clan games) -- completed games at time of check:
-1254 was average, 436 was median -- hardly "newly graduated"
-bottom 4: 24, 60, 98, 98 -- again, other 44 (90%) hardly "newly graduated"
2) It's been over 2 years since I played a ?-new-recruit something often complained about -- ALTHOUGH I AM ALLOWED TO PLAY THEM
3) they ignore mention that after I quit playing ?-new-recruits, I quit playing cooks, and then Cadets* -- and now playing fewer Privates. Definitely making progress on increasing my opponent rank (* "quit" as in playing regularly; sometimes one in team games).

Opponents have lied about and/or exaggerated claims of my style. I recommend Management:
- get FACTS before bending to the cries of those people -- and punish false accusers
- get a MUCH more broad-based sample of site concern levels. If leaders only listened to the vocal few, there would still be Salem Witch Trials.

1) The question isn't just about newness, rank has a big input too.
2) NRs aren't even in question right now.
3) If you want these reports to stop, I would say advance faster....?

Also, this is not a spurious report, so no punishment will be handed down to the accusers. Also, I personally do not listen to just the "vocal few", as you put it. Whatever the outcome, rest assured it will be weighed carefully.

[Criticalwinner]

How many times has this came up before? And with little to no new information? Good grief, how many times are you gonna bring up cases that everyone knows will not amount to anything.

[jefjef]

Also, this is not a spurious report, so no punishment will be handed down to the accusers. Also, I personally do not listen to just the "vocal few", as you put it. Whatever the outcome, rest assured it will be weighed carefully.

In all fairness it would be best, and right, to announce any new rules interpretations before taking any actions in re of them...

[Gen.LeeGettinhed]

"this is not a spurious report, so no punishment will be handed down to the accusers.

No, you misunderstood that point, I never said it was spurious (just redundant). It's the purposely lieing, over-exaggerating and misleading management about a player that should be punished. OK?

[hmsps]

"this is not a spurious report, so no punishment will be handed down to the accusers.

No, you misunderstood that point, I never said it was spurious (just redundant). It's the purposely lieing, over-exaggerating and misleading management about a player that should be punished. OK?

It is not spurious, nor is it against the current rules as has already been tested. Nor is it punishible for what you appear to be saying. These seem to be new unwritten rules

[Symmetry]

"this is not a spurious report, so no punishment will be handed down to the accusers.

No, you misunderstood that point, I never said it was spurious (just redundant). It's the purposely lieing, over-exaggerating and misleading management about a player that should be punished. OK?

It is not spurious, nor is it against the current rules as has already been tested. Nor is it punishible for what you appear to be saying. These seem to be new unwritten rules

I put in a suggestion for a rewrite and clarification of the guidelines and rules on the Suggestion forum. Getting to know which standards and unwritten rules apply is kind of tough.

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=165924

Having said that, I think there's probably more scope for a new topic there about streamlining and clarifying the C&A rules specifically. Mine is a bit more general.

[Leehar]

I think it's just interesting that I suspect an unbiased third party (who hasn't really been involved in the forums or any of the other numerous engagements happening here in C&A and elsewhere) looked at this from his uninvolved perspective and thought this was something worth being concerned about and reporting?

[codeblue1018]

Again and again and again and........ya da ya da ya da. Something will be figured out soon enough people as the admins are most likely tired of seeing GLG in C/A twice a week. Although who he plays is not against the rules at this time, a simple fix is to reorganize the scoreboard and the like. Perhaps have a scoreboard specifically for "farming" That would be a hellava accomplishment to remain #1 on that list. Seeing as tho I was coined a "detractor" , I figured Id leave my two cents on this matter. One record is apparent; most C/A complaints in 2012? I like it.

[codeblue1018]

I think it's just interesting that I suspect an unbiased third party (who hasn't really been involved in the forums or any of the other numerous engagements happening here in C&A and elsewhere) looked at this from his uninvolved perspective and thought this was something worth being concerned about and reporting?

My thoughts exactly mate.

[GoranZ]

Game 10742454
Oponent: Jedermeister
Number of times he played City Mogul map. Once agenst GLG

Comments from the game:

Gen.LeeGettinhed: thank you for joining me
Jedermeister: Thank you for inviting me
Jedermeister: I have to say i have never played this map before
Gen.LeeGettinhed: good map
Gen.LeeGettinhed: squares on graph paper
Jedermeister: Its a great map
Jedermeister: I like it very much
Jedermeister: im gonna have to practice on it though as i am aweful

He doesnt know the map and he is invited to speed game, which means he cant do anything except losing. Clasic farming according to the rules.


Game 10741441
Oponent: adennison
Number of times he played City Mogul map. Once agenst GLG

Comments from the game:
Gen.LeeGettinhed: thx for the quick game
adennison: yea no problem , always nice to try a new map

He doesnt know the map and he is invited to speed game, which means he cant do anything except losing. Clasic farming according to the rules.


Game 10587777
Oponent: dgankrom
Number of times he played City Mogul map. Once agenst GLG

Comments from the game:
Gen.LeeGettinhed: thx for joining me
dgankrom: I don't know this map at all.
Gen.LeeGettinhed: oh, well good map to know
Gen.LeeGettinhed: just blocks on graph paper
Gen.LeeGettinhed: like shopping at the Mall?
dgankrom: I am really outclassed here.
Gen.LeeGettinhed: hey, no prob
Gen.LeeGettinhed: 5 points to see an interesting map?

He doesnt know the map and he is invited to speed game, which means he cant do anything except losing. Clasic farming according to the rules.


Its very obvious that GLG found a glitch in the system, he plays mainly 1 map agents players that are total noobs for that map which guaranties him certain victory. The question for the admins... Is it legal to use bugs in the game?