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For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:07 pm
by Symmetry
It's a pun (or play on words) based on the term "omnishambles". From the best character in Armando Iannucci's "The thick of it", Malcolm Tucker.

He's currently running a similar series in the US- "Veep", but with less creative swearing.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/lauren-collins/2012/04/and-you-sir-are-an-omnishambles.html

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:14 pm
by Symmetry
Also explaining a joke is boring.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:16 pm
by BigBallinStalin
How about having a poll on whether or not your joke was funny?

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:18 pm
by fadedpsychosis
BigBallinStalin wrote:How about having a poll on whether or not your joke was funny?

how about a poll on whether explaining BBS is a joke?










bazinga

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:30 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:How about having a poll on whether or not your joke was funny?


Feel free to start one. Personally, I think the Thick of it is pretty great. Perhaps too much of a British style of humour for your taste? Naughty words are employed.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:43 pm
by AndyDufresne
BigBallinStalin wrote:How about having a poll on whether or not your joke was funny?

What sort of democracy are you pushing BBS? Inclusive democracy?


--Andy

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:46 pm
by BigBallinStalin
AndyDufresne wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:How about having a poll on whether or not your joke was funny?

What sort of democracy are you pushing BBS? Inclusive democracy?


--Andy


I want Absolute Monarchy within the guise of Democracy.

All households shall be unified under the One.

Bend over and prepare for a boot to the butt.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:49 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:How about having a poll on whether or not your joke was funny?


Feel free to start one. Personally, I think the Thick of it is pretty great. Perhaps too much of a British style of humour for your taste? Naughty words are employed.


The Thick of It is likely to be good, but being British itself doesn't guarantee the creation of good jokes. I suspect the joke was perceived as mediocre for most CC users, which is why a poll would be wonderful ITT.

I understand if you're unwilling to expose yourself to anonymous criticism from a poll, but in order to be a good producer, you have to allow the customers to evaluate your performance. I've done this intermittently and have produced good results!

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:51 pm
by BigBallinStalin
fadedpsychosis wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:How about having a poll on whether or not your joke was funny?

how about a poll on whether explaining BBS is a joke?










bazinga





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Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:54 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:How about having a poll on whether or not your joke was funny?


Feel free to start one. Personally, I think the Thick of it is pretty great. Perhaps too much of a British style of humour for your taste? Naughty words are employed.


The Thick of It is likely to be good, but being British itself doesn't guarantee the creation of good jokes. I suspect the joke was perceived as mediocre for most CC users, which is why a poll would be wonderful ITT.

I understand if you're unwilling to expose yourself to anonymous criticism from a poll.


As i pointed out, you're free to start a poll. Or watch the Thick of It and explain why it's not funny.

How much longer are you intending to keep up this trollish regime?

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:08 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
As i pointed out, you're free to start a poll. Or watch the Thick of It and explain why it's not funny.

How much longer are you intending to keep up this trollish regime?


A philosophical problem: is it trolling to consider the possibility that someone's joke is not funny?

If a Brit modifies a joke from a British TV show, is the joke in all cases funny? And does being British automatically make all of one's jokes funny?


We may never know because Symmetry fears the very worse: that people will not find him funny.


Opening oneself to criticism reveals to one the areas which they should improve. Remaining stubbornly ignorant of such crucial possibilities will lead one to the road of low self-esteem, frustration, and constant quibbling with others over unimportant issues. It's a vicious cycle of decline. I do not recommend getting hints and tips from this thread, Sym.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:14 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
As i pointed out, you're free to start a poll. Or watch the Thick of It and explain why it's not funny.

How much longer are you intending to keep up this trollish regime?


A philosophical problem: is it trolling to consider the possibility that someone's joke is not funny?

If a Brit modifies a joke from a British TV show, is the joke in all cases funny? And does being British automatically make all of one's jokes funny?


We may never know because Symmetry fears the very worse: that people will not find him funny.


Opening oneself to criticism reveals to one the areas which they should improve. Remaining stubbornly ignorant of such crucial possibilities will lead one to the road of low self-esteem, frustration, and constant quibbling with others over unimportant issues. It's a vicious cycle of decline. I do not recommend getting hints and tips from this thread, Sym.


I doubt you've ever been a lover of wisdom, BBS, so the appeal to philosophy seems redundant. If you want a poll, make one. If you want to say that you don't find a pun funny, then I think you've already done that.

The rest is just sound and fury.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:18 pm
by BigBallinStalin
I am sorry that my responses have caused you sound and fury. I hope that one day you'll become more open-minded, so that you can revision yourself into a more intellectually capable and caring human being.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 3:20 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:I am sorry that my responses have caused you sound and fury. I hope that one day you'll become more open-minded, so that you can revision yourself into a more intellectually capable and caring human being.


I will do my best.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:38 pm
by fadedpsychosis
Symmetry wrote:I doubt you've ever been a lover of wisdom, BBS, so the appeal to philosophy seems redundant. If you want a poll, make one. If you want to say that you don't find a pun funny, then I think you've already done that.

The rest is just sound and fury.

I admit it... I loled

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:21 pm
by Woodruff
Symmetry wrote:It's a pun (or play on words) based on the term "omnishambles". From the best character in Armando Iannucci's "The thick of it", Malcolm Tucker.


I would have unquestionably...never figured that out.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:25 pm
by Symmetry
Woodruff wrote:
Symmetry wrote:It's a pun (or play on words) based on the term "omnishambles". From the best character in Armando Iannucci's "The thick of it", Malcolm Tucker.


I would have unquestionably...never figured that out.


Put Malcolm Tucker into a youtube search. The results will not be readily postable here.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:47 pm
by BigBallinStalin
fadedpsychosis wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I doubt you've ever been a lover of wisdom, BBS, so the appeal to philosophy seems redundant. If you want a poll, make one. If you want to say that you don't find a pun funny, then I think you've already done that.

The rest is just sound and fury.

I admit it... I loled


It was okay, but I'll admit that it was better than his Romneyshambles joke. I liked the 'sound and fury' part so much that I had to use it!

I didn't get the redundant part, so maybe you could explain it for me:

. If I'm not a lover of wisdom, then how is appealing to philosophy redundant? Rather, the appeal would be baseless (i.e. based on nothing cuz I'm not a lover of wisdom/philosopher). If I was a lover of wisdom, then appealing to philosophy may seem redundant. I think Sym may have gone wrong in his logic on this one.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:02 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:
fadedpsychosis wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I doubt you've ever been a lover of wisdom, BBS, so the appeal to philosophy seems redundant. If you want a poll, make one. If you want to say that you don't find a pun funny, then I think you've already done that.

The rest is just sound and fury.

I admit it... I loled


It was okay, but I'll admit that it was better than his Romneyshambles joke. I liked the 'sound and fury' part so much that I had to use it!

I didn't get the redundant part, so maybe you could explain it for me:

. If I'm not a lover of wisdom, then how is appealing to philosophy redundant? Rather, the appeal would be baseless (i.e. based on nothing cuz I'm not a lover of wisdom/philosopher). If I was a lover of wisdom, then appealing to philosophy may seem redundant. I think Sym may have gone wrong in his logic on this one.


Have you ever considered me right on my logic? Not recently, I'm sure. But then again, you're judgement seems to be radically skewed when it comes to my posts.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:31 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
fadedpsychosis wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I doubt you've ever been a lover of wisdom, BBS, so the appeal to philosophy seems redundant. If you want a poll, make one. If you want to say that you don't find a pun funny, then I think you've already done that.

The rest is just sound and fury.

I admit it... I loled


It was okay, but I'll admit that it was better than his Romneyshambles joke. I liked the 'sound and fury' part so much that I had to use it!

I didn't get the redundant part, so maybe you could explain it for me:

. If I'm not a lover of wisdom, then how is appealing to philosophy redundant? Rather, the appeal would be baseless (i.e. based on nothing cuz I'm not a lover of wisdom/philosopher). If I was a lover of wisdom, then appealing to philosophy may seem redundant. I think Sym may have gone wrong in his logic on this one.


Have you ever considered me right on my logic? Not recently, I'm sure. But then again, you're judgement seems to be radically skewed when it comes to my posts.


You've already tried the straw man argument.

You're getting tedious, Symmetry, and a little mad.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:35 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
fadedpsychosis wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I doubt you've ever been a lover of wisdom, BBS, so the appeal to philosophy seems redundant. If you want a poll, make one. If you want to say that you don't find a pun funny, then I think you've already done that.

The rest is just sound and fury.

I admit it... I loled


It was okay, but I'll admit that it was better than his Romneyshambles joke. I liked the 'sound and fury' part so much that I had to use it!

I didn't get the redundant part, so maybe you could explain it for me:

. If I'm not a lover of wisdom, then how is appealing to philosophy redundant? Rather, the appeal would be baseless (i.e. based on nothing cuz I'm not a lover of wisdom/philosopher). If I was a lover of wisdom, then appealing to philosophy may seem redundant. I think Sym may have gone wrong in his logic on this one.


Have you ever considered me right on my logic? Not recently, I'm sure. But then again, you're judgement seems to be radically skewed when it comes to my posts.


You've already tried the straw man argument.

You're getting tedious, Symmetry, and a little mad.


And yet you seem to find me so fascinating. Do you love me?

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:40 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Suppose that you're terminally ill (cancer), and let's say I was faced with the choice of pushing two buttons.

Button A saves you from your cancer.

Button B provides a lifetime of cake for all the denizens of ConquerClub.


In a heart beat, I'd put the smackdown on Button B. A few of us may feel a little guilty, but after you're dead and gone, we can eat our cake guilt-free.

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:55 pm
by Symmetry
BigBallinStalin wrote:Suppose that you're terminally ill (cancer), and let's say I was faced with the choice of pushing two buttons.

Button A saves you from your cancer.

Button B provides a lifetime of cake for all the denizens of ConquerClub.


In a heart beat, I'd put the smackdown on Button B. A few of us may feel a little guilty, but after you're dead and gone, we can eat our cake guilt-free.



Bit harsh- you'd opt for cake over saving my life?

Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:01 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:Suppose that you're terminally ill (cancer), and let's say I was faced with the choice of pushing two buttons.

Button A saves you from your cancer.

Button B provides a lifetime of cake for all the denizens of ConquerClub.


In a heart beat, I'd put the smackdown on Button B. A few of us may feel a little guilty, but after you're dead and gone, we can eat our cake guilt-free.



Bit harsh- you'd opt for cake over saving my life?


I'm an altruist. Marx once said, 'feed them cake'.

Let's take a poll!

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Re: For our American cousins- the origin of Romneyshambles

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:32 am
by fadedpsychosis
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
fadedpsychosis wrote:
Symmetry wrote:I doubt you've ever been a lover of wisdom, BBS, so the appeal to philosophy seems redundant. If you want a poll, make one. If you want to say that you don't find a pun funny, then I think you've already done that.

The rest is just sound and fury.

I admit it... I loled


It was okay, but I'll admit that it was better than his Romneyshambles joke. I liked the 'sound and fury' part so much that I had to use it!

I didn't get the redundant part, so maybe you could explain it for me:

. If I'm not a lover of wisdom, then how is appealing to philosophy redundant? Rather, the appeal would be baseless (i.e. based on nothing cuz I'm not a lover of wisdom/philosopher). If I was a lover of wisdom, then appealing to philosophy may seem redundant. I think Sym may have gone wrong in his logic on this one.


Have you ever considered me right on my logic? Not recently, I'm sure. But then again, you're judgement seems to be radically skewed when it comes to my posts.


You've already tried the straw man argument.

You're getting tedious, Symmetry, and a little mad.


“But I don’t want to go among mad people,”

“Oh, you can’t help that,” “we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”

“How do you know I’m mad?”

“You must be,”“or you wouldn’t have come here.”