8th and final USAS Contest -- West Virginia

[Dukasaur]

Part of the USA Supertournament event.


This contest is the EIGHTH AND FINAL in the series, and it is here to determine the map which best represents West Virginia.
(There is no official state colour, but unofficially green and gold are regarded by many as Vermont's colours.)

Suggestions (see below for reasoning):

• World 2.1
• Fractured America
• Madness
• Germany
• Indian Empire
• Duck and Cover
• Celtic Nations
• England

General Rules of the Contest

• There can be no duplications. A map that is already assigned to another state cannot be used again.
• Before a poll is put up, the thread will be open for at least a few days for people to add suggestions.
• Anyone can make a suggestion, but please limit yourself to one suggestion.
  If the list is short, I may accept a 2nd suggestion from people who have already made one.
• Once the poll has been posted, no more suggestions will be accepted.
• The poll will run for at least a week.
  New rules:
• The multistage selection process having been generally unpopular, from here on in we will go with simple plurality of votes. Personally, I'm a big believer in multistage selection procedures, but I don't want to be constantly at odds with the community which ultimately I'm here to serve.
• The person who made the winning suggestion will get a GA medal.
• Everyone who makes a suggestion which wins 1% or more of the vote, will get a cash prize, 10 credits for each percent. In other words, 1% of the vote gets you 10 credits, 27% of the vote gets you 270 credits, etc.
• No attempt will be made to correct rounding errors. What You See Is What You Get. Thus, the total prize might not be exactly 1000 credits, although it will probably be close to that.
• The Community Team will no longer be involved in the final selection. However, there are special prizes from the Community Team. After everyone has made their argument in favour of their suggestion, the members of the Community Team will be polled about which argument they found most convincing. Each member of the Community Team will have an extra 50 credits to allocate to one or more arguments presented, except their own.
• Anyone who posts anything useful in the thread -- a suggestion, an argument for or against a suggestions, a general comment, a factual correction, pretty much anything useful, will be entered into a random draw for a yellow star, to be drawn as soon as the poll ends.
• A lot of people have made suggestions in other places (one of the other threads, or by PM). In the past I scoured everywhere for older suggestions. I just don't have time to do that this time around, so even if you mad a suggestion in the past, you must make it again IN THIS THREAD. If it comes down to an issue of precedence, older suggestions will still be honoured, but you must post a link to the place where you made the original suggestion.

Let's see if we can get past 10 suggestions this time around. What map do you think of when you think West Virginia?

[spoiler=states already decided]

1. Alabama -- Cuban Missile Crisis
2. Alaska -- District of Alaska
3. Arizona -- Oasis
4. Arkansas -- Phillipines (Douglas MacArthur was from Arkansas)
5. California -- California
6. Colorado -- Supermax Prison Riot (CO is location of the original Supermax)
7. Connecticut -- Conquer 4
8. Delaware -- USA (the first state to ratify the Constitution)
9. Florida -- Tribal Wars Florida
10. Georgia -- Battle for Iraq!
11. Hawaii -- Pearl Harbor
12. Idaho -- USA West (not actually on the USA West maps, but the four states that are have better representatives already)
13. Illinois -- Chicago
14. Indiana -- Conquer 500 (Indy 500)
15. Iowa -- Quad Cities
16. Kansas -- Halloween Hallows (Dorothy from Kansas, killed the witch in Wizard of Oz.)
17. Kentucky -- Circus Maximus (Kentucky Derby)
18. Louisiana -- Rail USA (New Orleans is 5th largest center on Rail USA map -- the other four are already represented)
19. Maine -- France (named for province in France, and settled by French in 1604, 3 years before any British settlement in North America.)
20. Maryland -- British Isles
21. Massachusetts -- Salem's Switch
22. Michigan -- Great Lakes (the most "Great Laky" of the Great Lakes states)
23. Minnesota -- Conquer Man (Billy Mitchell got the first perfect score on Pac Man and is from Minnesota)
24. Mississippi -- First Nations Americas
25. Missouri -- Route 66
26. Montana -- First Nations North America (Home to 12 native tribes, with 7 major reservations, and a wealth of native history)
27. Nebraska -- USApocalypse
28. Nevada -- Poker Club
29. New Hampshire -- USA New England
30. New Jersey -- New Jersey
31. New Mexico -- USA Southwest
32. New York -- NYC
33. North Carolina -- Pirates & Merchants
34. North Dakota -- North America (North Dakota hypothetical geographic centre of North America
35. Ohio -- USA Great Lakes
36. Oklahoma -- Dust Bowl
37. Oregon -- Portland
38. Pennsylvania -- Philadelphia
39. Rhode Island -- 13 Colonies
40. South Carolina -- Charleston
41. South Dakota -- 4 Star Meats
42. Tennessee -- USA Southeast
43. Texas -- Texas Wars
44. Utah -- Hive (the Beehive State)
45. Vermont -- King of the Mountains
46. Virginia -- American Civil War
47. Washington -- Puget Sound
48. West Virginia -- (map TBA)
49. Wisconsin -- Nordic Countries (noted for high Nordic population)
50. Wyoming -- USA Rockies
    Bonus weeks:
51. District of Columbia -- U.S. Senate
52. Puerto Rico -- Caribbean Islands
53. U.S. Pacific Possessions -- Oceania

[/spoiler]

[Dukasaur]

Previous suggestions:
Both jmyork82 and groovysmurf suggested King of the Mountains for West Virginia. However, that suggestion is now dead as KOTM has been used for Vermont.
DoomYoshi suggested World 2.1.
Other than that I have no previous suggestions logged.

[GaryDenton]

The obvious map is The American Civil War despite the fact that is also used for VIrginia.
The American Civil War was about the country being torn apart and VIrginia being torn apart and West Virginia being created.
At the beginning of the Civil War there was one Virginia, having West Virginia also having the same map seems appropriate.

--- In the event there is insistance that the maps cannot duplicate another state -> Fractured America.

[thelord]

MADNESS - the first song i think of when i hear west v is - take me home country road and my home is a madhouse!

[misteryforall]

Put some Virgin(ia) map as name say...... hole...there a lot of map can represent that name(not country)

[DoomYoshi]

The reason for world 2.1 is because John Denver's song "Country Roads" is universally famous, in a way that American songs sometimes aren't. West Virginia is the most American of the States, and therefore the worldwide symbol of USA.
Here it is in Japan:

show

Czechia:

show

Jamaica:

show

Italy:

show

France:

show

Romania:

show

Germany:

show

England:

show

South Asia:

show

The Entire World:

show

There are other versions, but that should be enough to make my point. I don't even want to play World 2.1 because I like small maps, but West Virginia is every country in the world, and only a map of the entire world can cover it. It is the Garden of Eden, Shangri-La, Atlantis and Utopia all in one. Everyone in the world wants to go home to West Virginia, whether they know it or not.

[jfm10]

Germany map

The five largest ancestry groups in West Virginia are: German (18.9%), Irish (15.1%) American (12.9%), English (11.8%) and Italian (4.7%)[67][68] In the 2000 Census People who identified their ethnicity as simply American made up 18.7% of the population.[69] The majority of these people are of Scots-Irish ancestry, or of English descent

[Kevi]

Charleston - what could more obvious than it's capital

[Kevi]

Indian Empire because In the 1670s during the Beaver Wars, the powerful Iroquois, five allied nations based in present-day New York and Pennsylvania, drove out other American Indian tribes from the region in order to reserve the upper Ohio Valley as a hunting ground, and the early white pioneers thought they were in India anyway.

[ZaBeast]

I propose Duck and cover
West Virginia will be the location of the upcoming fallout 76 game



Fom the official site

Mountain Splendorland
All-new graphics, lighting and landscape technology brings to life six distinct West Virginia regions. From the forests of Appalachia to the noxious crimson expanses of the Cranberry Bog, each region offers its own risks and rewards. Post-nuclear America has never looked so beautiful!

[spoiler=lyrics of the song of tthe trailer]Almost heaven, West Virginia,
Blue Ridge Mountain, Shanandoa River,
Life is old there, older than the trees,
Younger than the mountains, blowing like a breeze

Country Roads, take me home
To the place I belong,
West Virginia,
Mountain mamma, take me home
Country roads

All my memories, gather round her
Miner's lady, stranger to blue water
Dark and dusty, painted on the sky
Misty taste of moonshine, teardrop in my eye

Country Roads, take me home
To the place I belong,
West Virginia,
Mountain Mamma, take me home
Country roads

I hear her voice in the morning hour as she calls me
The radio reminds me of my home far away
Driving down the road I get a feeling
That I should have been home yesterday, yesterday

Country Roads, take me home
To the place I belong,
West Virginia,
Mountain Mamma, take me home
Country roads

Country Roads, take me home
To the place I belong,
West Virginia,
Mountain Mamma, take me home
Country roads

Take me home, that country road
Take me home, that country road[/spoiler]

(duck and cover because of the nukes, obviously)

[TX AG 90]

Indian Empire because In the 1670s during the Beaver Wars, the powerful Iroquois, five allied nations based in present-day New York and Pennsylvania, drove out other American Indian tribes from the region in order to reserve the upper Ohio Valley as a hunting ground, and the early white pioneers thought they were in India anyway.

He's doing it again!

[Kevi]

Indian Empire because In the 1670s during the Beaver Wars, the powerful Iroquois, five allied nations based in present-day New York and Pennsylvania, drove out other American Indian tribes from the region in order to reserve the upper Ohio Valley as a hunting ground, and the early white pioneers thought they were in India anyway.

He's doing it again!

That's from Wikipedia

[mrswdk]

Scandinavia, because West Virginia is the third whitest state in America.

[Sirius Kase]

Celtic Nations, Bluegrass and Celtic music are practically the same thing except for the addition of the banjo. It's because of how the Scott Irish immigrants headed for the hills instead of staying on the coast.

[bdb]

Madness (because one of the main tourist attractions in West Virginia is
Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum: Former hospital-turned-landmark in Weston, West Virginia.)

OR

England (since it takes its state name from the Virgin Queen of England)

[mrswdk]

Celtic Nations, Bluegrass and Celtic music are practically the same thing except for the addition of the banjo. It's because of how the Scott Irish immigrants headed for the hills instead of staying on the coast.

Celtic music? That’s like saying ‘Asian music’.

[Kevi]

Scandinavia, because West Virginia is the third whitest state in America.

scandinavia is now part of greater syria

[Dukasaur]

Thank you for your suggestions. Poll has been added.

[HitRed]

I love the Madness map.

[t4mcr53s2]

I know this is closed but I wanted to give a thumbs up to Doom Yoshi for his research on a beautiful song; did you know the Baltimore orioles play it in the 7th inning stretch of every home game and the fans often get up and sing, ( at least all 3 of us still in the park did at their last game)

also props to duck and cover because of all the coal mines, as George Scott or Peter Sellars says in Dr Strangelove , or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb, " Mr. President, we cannot afford to have a mine shaft gap "

[DoomYoshi]

I know this is closed but I wanted to give a thumbs up to Doom Yoshi for his research on a beautiful song; did you know the Baltimore orioles play it in the 7th inning stretch of every home game and the fans often get up and sing, ( at least all 3 of us still in the park did at their last game)

also props to duck and cover because of all the coal mines, as George Scott or Peter Sellars says in Dr Strangelove , or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb, " Mr. President, we cannot afford to have a mine shaft gap "

No I did not.

A couple months ago I read this article which suggests that the song is actually "Thank God I'm a Country Boy":
https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/38846/flu-like-symptoms-songs-seventh-inning-stretch/

Thanks for the tip though, I know these songs can change.

It is not too late though. Tell all your friends to vote for me, since I did the most research

[Dukasaur]

Madness has won the poll and will be used. I'll need the weekend to hand out prizes and stuff.

[ZaBeast]

There's no hurry on my side and I guess you're just busy (haven't seen any update on the 2011 WWC tournament either), but I wanted to check if handing the prizes was still on the to-do list

[Dukasaur]

There's no hurry on my side and I guess you're just busy (haven't seen any update on the 2011 WWC tournament either), but I wanted to check if handing the prizes was still on the to-do list

Yes, sorry. A bunch of things popped up on me in R/L in the last few weeks. I'll try to get to this tonight.

[Dukasaur]

Rewards have been issued.

Congrats to [player]thelord[/player] on his shiny new GA medal!



All players making suggestions have been issued credits based on poll placement (see above).

Misteryforall was randomly selected from thread participants to receive a yellow star!

Thank you all for participating...