Clarify Round limit win conditions

[4 U 2 NV]

Concise description:

• Clarify the conditions in for winning at the end of a round limit game stated in the Game Options page

Specifics/Details:

• "With round limits, the game will automatically finish at the end of the specified round. The winner will be the surviving player with the most troops. If there is a tie, it will be broken based on the most regions. If there is still a tie, the winner is selected based on join order. When playing a round limited game with teams, the winning team will be based on combined teamwide troop count. This option is great for avoiding stalemates and can add some spice to the game as the deadline approaches!"
  
  Need to define what join order is as the 3rd condition to break a tied game. Not sure how one can track the join order. I believe it should actually be "turn order" as in first person at the start of a round

How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:

• "Join order" is confusing as it is a term not used anywhere else in the game description.
• it'll benefit the site so i stop complaining about it

[Caymanmew]

I believe join order means Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, etc

[Mad777]

not sure what is not clear, in 2 player game red always win being the first to join, in multiplayer game it may differ if player drop before game start (for instance red) and someone else come to fill the remaining spot then...who ever is the oldest joining player is the one who win this tie condition.

There isn’t a way to track, to my knowledge.

[4 U 2 NV]

I believe join order means Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, etc

Game 20581010

Team game. tied troops, tied territories. team 2 won which i'm assuming is due to turn order

[4 U 2 NV]

not sure what is not clear, in 2 player game red always win being the first to join, in multiplayer game it may differ if player drop before game start (for instance red) and someone else come to fill the remaining spot then...who ever is the oldest joining player is the one who win this tie condition.

There isn’t a way to track, to my knowledge.

interesting. so join order is the correct terminology. the game looks like it tracks it somehow, but guess it's up to the players to recall who joins first.

[Mad777]

in tournament when organizer send invite to players, I guess if green join first before red, then green could be wining this tie rule, honestly I don’t recall being in a position where i had to check this so i could be wrong.

[Extreme Ways]

Hah. Did you know who accepted the invite first? I'm wondering if it's supposed to say turn order, but I'm fairly sure it shouldn't.

[4 U 2 NV]

yeah we don't recall who joined first. if we knew, i would have risked taking another territory. working with the assumption that we would win the 3rd criteria, didn't make sense to risk it at the time.

[BabySasuke]

nobody attacked? looks like a snore of 20 rounds, friend!

[Evil Semp]

I believe join order means Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, etc

Game 20581010

Team game. tied troops, tied territories. team 2 won which i'm assuming is due to turn order

In the game linked the log says team two won because of troop count. The overview shows tied in troops.


2021-01-29 23:30:11 - 4 U 2 NV assaulted A15 from A16 and conquered it from neutral player
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - 4 U 2 NV ended the turn
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - Round limit reached, Team 2 has the most troops and won the game
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - itstheGeneral, Wizz00 won the game
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - CaronylKluster lost 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - 4 U 2 NV lost 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - itstheGeneral gained 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - Wizz00 gained 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - CaronylKluster has a score of 2340

[i-andrei]

I believe join order means Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, etc

Game 20581010

Team game. tied troops, tied territories. team 2 won which i'm assuming is due to turn order

In the game linked the log says team two won because of troop count. The overview shows tied in troops.


2021-01-29 23:30:11 - 4 U 2 NV assaulted A15 from A16 and conquered it from neutral player
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - 4 U 2 NV ended the turn
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - Round limit reached, Team 2 has the most troops and won the game
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - itstheGeneral, Wizz00 won the game
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - CaronylKluster lost 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - 4 U 2 NV lost 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - itstheGeneral gained 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - Wizz00 gained 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - CaronylKluster has a score of 2340

It always surprises me how some people don't do the simplest check.
Can you sum up the troops for both teams and see the total?

It s obviously a mistake in the written game log.

[Evil Semp]

I believe join order means Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, etc

Game 20581010

Team game. tied troops, tied territories. team 2 won which i'm assuming is due to turn order

In the game linked the log says team two won because of troop count. The overview shows tied in troops.


2021-01-29 23:30:11 - 4 U 2 NV assaulted A15 from A16 and conquered it from neutral player
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - 4 U 2 NV ended the turn
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - Round limit reached, Team 2 has the most troops and won the game
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - itstheGeneral, Wizz00 won the game
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - CaronylKluster lost 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - 4 U 2 NV lost 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - itstheGeneral gained 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - Wizz00 gained 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - CaronylKluster has a score of 2340

It always surprises me how some people don't do the simplest check.
Can you sum up the troops for both teams and see the total?

It s obviously a mistake in the written game log.

I think I pointed that out in my post. I just didn't have any crayons handy to draw a picture.

[Extreme Ways]

I believe join order means Red, Green, Blue, Yellow, etc

Game 20581010

Team game. tied troops, tied territories. team 2 won which i'm assuming is due to turn order

In the game linked the log says team two won because of troop count. The overview shows tied in troops.


2021-01-29 23:30:11 - 4 U 2 NV assaulted A15 from A16 and conquered it from neutral player
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - 4 U 2 NV ended the turn
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - Round limit reached, Team 2 has the most troops and won the game
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - itstheGeneral, Wizz00 won the game
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - CaronylKluster lost 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - 4 U 2 NV lost 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - itstheGeneral gained 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - Wizz00 gained 20 points
2021-01-29 23:30:28 - CaronylKluster has a score of 2340

It always surprises me how some people don't do the simplest check.
Can you sum up the troops for both teams and see the total?

It s obviously a mistake in the written game log.

I think I pointed that out in my post. I just didn't have any crayons handy to draw a picture.

Besides the fact that Andrei didnt bother reading your posts, it's also not a mistake in the written game log. Team game tiebreakers used to be decided based on 'player with most troops' rather than 'team with most troops'. Perhaps this is an unintentional unwritten tiebreaker for teamgames nowadays.

[4 U 2 NV]

nobody attacked? looks like a snore of 20 rounds, friend!

It was 19 rounds. Last round we went nuts

[i-andrei]

I just read it wrong lol. My bad on that. Still, the game log doesn't show everything

[betiko]

i remember losing games where my team had more troops but their guy with the most troops had more than our guy with the most troops (before they changed the rule)

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=11662466

I wonder if team 2 won because actually... after the total troops tie, tert tie... a player had more troops? sounds like a good tie breaker rule... that's what was done before as first rule in team games
I must admit, I would have thought team 1 would've won based on my knowledge of the current rule. I thought it was al about the colours, and not really who joined last.

[betiko]

I just read it wrong lol. My bad on that. Still, the game log doesn't show everything

how ironic, after being so sarcastic right?

[Extreme Ways]

i remember losing games where my team had more troops but their guy with the most troops had more than our guy with the most troops (before they changed the rule)

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=11662466

I wonder if team 2 won because actually... after the total troops tie, tert tie... a player had more troops? sounds like a good tie breaker rule... that's what was done before as first rule in team games
I must admit, I would have thought team 1 would've won based on my knowledge of the current rule. I thought it was al about the colours, and not really who joined last.

I want to know this too, but I guess we'll never know unless we set up such a game again.

[i-andrei]

I just read it wrong lol. My bad on that. Still, the game log doesn't show everything

how ironic, after being so sarcastic right?

No. Why? Am i not allowed to be ironic about it and then acknowledge my mistake?
You could be Ironic also, just apply in the Tribe section of the site.

[HardAttack]

in such super rare conditions, the team with lesser numbers on the weight scale should win

[mc05025]

When the round limit was introduced, the team that had the player with most troops was the winner. That system had some issues and was changes to the sum of troops condition that we still have.