Oggiss [cleared]

bryguy · Post by **bryguy** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:04 am

Subject line: Oggiss

These are suspected Multis

Suspect users: oggiss, NySportsRule, HG Shanks13, kmoney247, monomonkey, Sardonic, Avon Barksdale, tapout9, Pengwinnking, jterza1, Mika-ela, wessa5, JORD018, hillbilly800, that_kidd_j, dseed6

Game numbers: http://conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1945456, http://conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1940792, http://conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1945458

Comments: I joined 3 games with oggiss, cause i wanted to do some 8 player circus maximus, so i joined the first 3 that i found, and then when they started noted how almost all the people who joined, joined on the exact same day. Also, when the game starts, the new people play at roughly the same time. There is an exception for some of these who do not play at the same time, but i do still think that oggiss is a multi

bryguy

TheTrust · Post by **TheTrust** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:00 am

Ok, I dont know Oggis but here are some things I've found interesting...

Oggis - Sweden, 1429 games played, joined jan 18, 2007

Avon Barksdale - US, no games played, Joined March 9th, 08

Tapout9 - US, no games played, Joined March 9th, 08

Penguinking - US, no games played, Joined March (let me check, 9th, 08 )

Sardonic - US, no games played, joined March (take a wild guess, 9th, 08 )

Jterza - US, no games played, joined .... (you know the rest)

yamlet - US, joined Jan 12, 2008, 39 games played, 2 won. (seems legit hehe)

Seems to me based on this first game you've shown bryguy Oggis could be one of the only players to legitimately not be suspected.

:roll:

Game 2

NySportsRule, no games, joined March 9th, 08 (US) (uh oh, this could be something)

HG Shanks13: No games, joined March 9th, 08 (US)
Kmoney247: No games, joined March 9th, 08 (US)
monomonkey: No games, joined March 9th, 08 (US)
Sardonic (already visited in game 1)
Redstone: 30 games 1 win, joined jan 23, 2008 From ireland.

Game 3 (confirming to me that Oggiss is not a multi, no matter how lucky he is

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Mika-ela: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (Finland)wessa5: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (UK)
JORD018: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (UK)
hillbilly800: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (United States)
that_kidd_j: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (United States)
dseed6: No games, joined march 9th, 08 (United States)

KoE_Sirius · Post by **KoE_Sirius** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:06 am

TheTrust wrote:Ok, I dont know Oggis but here are some things I've found interesting...

Oggis - Sweden, 1429 games played, joined jan 18, 2007

Avon Barksdale - US, no games played, Joined March 9th, 08

Tapout9 - US, no games played, Joined March 9th, 08

Penguinking - US, no games played, Joined March (let me check, 9th, 08 )

Sardonic - US, no games played, joined March (take a wild guess, 9th, 08 )

Jterza - US, no games played, joined .... (you know the rest)

yamlet - US, joined Jan 12, 2008, 39 games played, 2 won. (seems legit hehe)

Seems to me based on this first game you've shown bryguy Oggis could be one of the only players to legitimately not be suspected.

I dont like Orgiss either,but I'm inclined to agree.He can't be the multi.

KLOBBER · Post by **KLOBBER** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:25 am

I have played a few games with Oggiss, and his fishy actions there and in this forum made me also suspect that he is a cheater. I suggest you avoid playing games with him.

bryguy · Post by **bryguy** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:32 am

u say he cant be the multi, but search these settings

first put in oggiss where it says with player

then circus maximus, standard, freestyle, public, casual

see how many people he plays with that are new and joined the same day???

TheTrust · Post by **TheTrust** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:36 am

Your saying all these accounts from different countries could be generated by him?

Warsteiner · Post by **Warsteiner** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:37 am

For some reason Circus Maximus is spammed by question marks playing. Klobber encountered this and was found not to be guilty. Oggis even investigated Klobber for this saying he never got question marks against him, apperently he has now. There's no blame attached to oggis for this whatsoever

KLOBBER · Post by **KLOBBER** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:39 am

I still suspect him, and I intend to prove it.

william18 · Post by **william18** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:43 am

TheTrust wrote:Your saying all these accounts from different countries could be generated by him?

You remind me of Skoffin.

TheTrust · Post by **TheTrust** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:49 am

william18 wrote:
TheTrust wrote:Your saying all these accounts from different countries could be generated by him?

You remind me of Skoffin.

You know what! I get that alot hun lol

I really need to find out who this skoffin is. Good guy? Bad guy? tell me more.

TheTrust · Post by **TheTrust** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:52 am

KLOBBER wrote:
KoE_Sirius wrote:I dont like Orgiss either,but I'm inclined to agree.He can't be the multi.

...unless he just started cheating in March, and all those are indeed his multi accounts. I would not put it past him -- he intimated to me that this very method could be used to cheat, not more than two weeks ago.

Here is Oggiss's exact quote: "What is the name of that program that allows you to use a different computer but you are at your own?.... If he uses it then he could use a whole damn library..."

The above quote is from a thread in which Oggiss is discussing and gathering research on a method of cheating whereby it is possible to log in to the site from multiple computer connections, and fake the IP addresses so that his multis appear to be from various countries. This is the same method that he is now accused of using!

Since he was already thinking about and researching this exact cheating method, even before this accusation, I think that the accusation is most likely valid.

If IPs are used to determine the odds of someone cheating, then the fact that all these accounts from different countries have different IPs would sort of protect him against accusations no?

Seems like you could bundle these players by country and check IPs but how do you pin them to Oggiss without relying on speculation?

(Noob in the ways of hunting lol)

KLOBBER · Post by **KLOBBER** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:52 am

I don't know much about multi-hunting either, but I would avoid playing Oggiss if I were you. He's already on my ignore list!

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:11 am

KLOBBER wrote:That gives him plenty of time to buy the program, install it, and start implementing his fully researched cheating method on this site by March 9

Oh you don't need to buy it... if you know what you're doing you can acquire it for nothing on 'teh interwebz'. It's only a small thing so you can yank it down in no time.

In fact, if anybody wants a shiny new copy of this delightful little app, then I'd be happy to senduit.com

Just hit me up with those PMs peeps.

KLOBBER · Post by **KLOBBER** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:13 am

That's not necessary.

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:16 am

What about you Klobby? Fancy pushing up your score a little bit? You sound like a man of loose-morals and wide-eyes...

KLOBBER · Post by **KLOBBER** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:28 am

I said it's not necessary.

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:28 am

KLOBBER wrote:That gives him plenty of time to buy the program, install it, and start implementing his fully researched cheating method on this site by March 9

Oh you don't need to buy it... if you know what you're doing you can acquire it for nothing on 'teh interwebz'. It's only a small thing so you can yank it down in no time.

In fact, if anybody wants a shiny new copy of this delightful little app, then I'd be happy to senduit.com

Just hit me up with those PMs peeps.

KLOBBER · Post by **KLOBBER** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:32 am

Please stop spamming this thread.

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:34 am

You've posted that three times, what's going on my man?

KLOBBER · Post by **KLOBBER** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:36 am

How do you mean?

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:37 am

Seriously, why do you keep posting that same passage of text, then editing it when I reply to you? It's very odd, and it's generating a whole heap of spam.

KLOBBER · Post by **KLOBBER** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:39 am

Stop spamming this thread.

Dancing Mustard · Post by **Dancing Mustard** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:42 am

You do know that other people can see you keep editing your posts, right?

You've posted the same chunk of 'Ogiss is a bad man' text over and over again (and one 'where do I get that software' post), but everytime I respond to you, you change it to make it look like you said 'stop spamming' or something.

Seriously, it's such a pre-school scheme that my pet chimp wouldn't be fooled by it.

KLOBBER · Post by **KLOBBER** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:56 am

I am an editor by trade -- I can't help myself. What's it to you how I edit my posts?

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:17 am

Okay, how about everyone actually stops spamming this thread? Thanks

This is pending