I think I'll stay just free user for a while, and why.

[transylvaniarox]

OK well what it comes down to is, will anyone pay a premium membership for me )))
I'll play any number of team, individual, etc etc games with you
anyone, anyone?

[Timminz]

OK well what it comes down to is, will anyone pay a premium membership for me )))
I'll play any number of team, individual, etc etc games with you
anyone, anyone?

That was quick. Any idea who did it?

[Supermarioluigi]

$25 is very reasonable for unlimited games.

It's like a buffet...take as much or as little as you want.


...why haven't I got premium yet?
That's a good question...

[JimRocky]

$25 is very reasonable for unlimited games.

It's like a buffet...take as much or as little as you want.


...why haven't I got premium yet?
That's a good question...

Well like I said, I'm a light eater so I can't ever feel good taking advantage of all you can eat buffets.
The satellite TV company has several levels of pricing. A few channels is much less than the every channel package, and there's one or two mid ground choices too. My ISP has at least two, (maybe more), offerings for bandwidth. I can get a lot more for more money, or I can eat light for less. It's really rather common to have multi-level offerings of services.
I'm not here to argue. It was really just a subtle suggestion that I thought might make interesting discussion.

If someone wants to contribute to my CC buffet I'll say thank you and be grateful. I don't expect anyone too though.

[JimRocky]

... I'm not sure, but business is never as clear cut as we non-business people like to think

I'm a business person though, so perhaps I have some modicum of insight. If I can't sell someone a Cadillac Escalade maybe they can afford a Dodge Neon. Win Win. They get off their feet and I still made a few dollars. (Plus if they are like me they will haggle on the price a bit too. )

Someone can't buy a Caddy and I have nothing in their price range to offer... Lose Lose. They walk to the guy who does have something to offer and I still have my Caddy that needs washing every few days.

I could offer countless examples, but it's really quite obvious to any objective observer. I understand it's often difficult for people directly involved in situations to fully extract themselves and be objective.

[Timminz]

... I'm not sure, but business is never as clear cut as we non-business people like to think

I'm a business person though, so perhaps I have some modicum of insight. If I can't sell someone a Cadillac Escalade maybe they can afford a Dodge Neon. Win Win. They get off their feet and I still made a few dollars. (Plus if they are like me they will haggle on the price a bit too. )

Someone can't buy a Caddy and I have nothing in their price range to offer... Lose Lose. They walk to the guy who does have something to offer and I still have my Caddy that needs washing every few days.

I could offer countless examples, but it's really quite obvious to any objective observer. I understand it's often difficult for people directly involved in situations to fully extract themselves and be objective.

I see what you're saying, but my perspective is that CC is offering the caddy, for the price of a neon.

[JimRocky]

... I'm not sure, but business is never as clear cut as we non-business people like to think

I'm a business person though, so perhaps I have some modicum of insight. If I can't sell someone a Cadillac Escalade maybe they can afford a Dodge Neon. Win Win. They get off their feet and I still made a few dollars. (Plus if they are like me they will haggle on the price a bit too. )

Someone can't buy a Caddy and I have nothing in their price range to offer... Lose Lose. They walk to the guy who does have something to offer and I still have my Caddy that needs washing every few days.

I could offer countless examples, but it's really quite obvious to any objective observer. I understand it's often difficult for people directly involved in situations to fully extract themselves and be objective.

I see what you're saying, but my perspective is that CC is offering the caddy, for the price of a neon.

No. I would have to pay for a nice Caddy like you are riding in, but I would only be riding in a Neon. Yes, I know I COULD play a thousand games a year theoretically, but realistically I know I won't be able or even want too. I wouldn't mind getting a nice little Neon though as it would suit my needs. Can't really afford a Caddy right now, so I have to ride the bus since they won't sell me a Neon.

[AndyDufresne]

... I'm not sure, but business is never as clear cut as we non-business people like to think

I'm a business person though, so perhaps I have some modicum of insight. If I can't sell someone a Cadillac Escalade maybe they can afford a Dodge Neon. Win Win. They get off their feet and I still made a few dollars. (Plus if they are like me they will haggle on the price a bit too. )

Someone can't buy a Caddy and I have nothing in their price range to offer... Lose Lose. They walk to the guy who does have something to offer and I still have my Caddy that needs washing every few days.

I could offer countless examples, but it's really quite obvious to any objective observer. I understand it's often difficult for people directly involved in situations to fully extract themselves and be objective.

I see what you're saying, but my perspective is that CC is offering the caddy, for the price of a neon.

I like Timminz's point.


--Andy

[JimRocky]

... I'm not sure, but business is never as clear cut as we non-business people like to think

I'm a business person though, so perhaps I have some modicum of insight. If I can't sell someone a Cadillac Escalade maybe they can afford a Dodge Neon. Win Win. They get off their feet and I still made a few dollars. (Plus if they are like me they will haggle on the price a bit too. )

Someone can't buy a Caddy and I have nothing in their price range to offer... Lose Lose. They walk to the guy who does have something to offer and I still have my Caddy that needs washing every few days.

I could offer countless examples, but it's really quite obvious to any objective observer. I understand it's often difficult for people directly involved in situations to fully extract themselves and be objective.

I see what you're saying, but my perspective is that CC is offering the caddy, for the price of a neon.

I like Timminz's point.



--Andy

That's the objectivity issue... see previous posts. I can yell out all day how my Neon for sale is just a good as a Caddy if I truly believed it, but the people passing by would know better. They would still see a Neon with a Caddy price sticker on it.

[AndyDufresne]

Take it out for a test drive, see what you're getting.


--Andy

[JimRocky]

Take it out for a test drive, see what you're getting.


--Andy

I did, remember? I was a premium. Loved it, but I saw people in their Caddy's when I was only interested or able to drive the Neon. Didn't seem fair. I miss my 15 to 20 games at once, but life is that way sometimes I suppose.

[AndyDufresne]

Guess so! Why not try some of the other ways then? Refer some friends, see if they upgrade. Play in tournaments with Premium Prizes. Hope for an anonymous benefactor like some people. There are some fun options out there, that are free from your end.


--Andy

[sashabear]

I dont see what all the whining is all about when $25.00 a year is less than .07 a day

[sashabear]

If anyone can afford that they need to get there ass off the chair and get a job.

[JimRocky]

I dont see what all the whining is all about when $25.00 a year is less than .07 a day
If anyone can afford that they need to get there ass off the chair and get a job.

Usually it is semi-illiterate, smart-aleck, dumbass, immature children types that refer to others', well thought out and decently presented issues in a discussion, as "whining". These same types of people often make foolish assumptions and idiotic pointless suggestions. Just like you did in your two posts. Perhaps one day the trees won't hamper your view of the forest; until then I would suggest you refrain from posting, as you make yourself look foolish. I offer that advice in all sincerity, and it's in your best interest. At the very least, PLEASE stay out of my threads because I don't care for you, your opinions, or your thoughts.
Thank you and have a nice life.

[Selucid Empire]

I dont see what all the whining is all about when $25.00 a year is less than .07 a day
If anyone can afford that they need to get there ass off the chair and get a job.

Usually it is semi-illiterate, smart-aleck, dumbass, immature children types that refer to others', well thought out and decently presented issues in a discussion, as "whining". These same types of people often make foolish assumptions and idiotic pointless suggestions. Just like you did in your two posts. Perhaps one day the trees won't hamper your view of the forest; until then I would suggest you refrain from posting, as you make yourself look foolish. I offer that advice in all sincerity, and it's in your best interest. At the very least, PLEASE stay out of my threads because I don't care for you, your opinions, or your thoughts.
Thank you and have a nice life.

JimRocky's absolutely right here. Sashabear your point although simplistic and perhaps with straighforward intentions comes accross as over-simplified. You don't know the situations of each person at the site and a blanket statement like the one you made was just out of place in the "area" of conversation that JimRocky has taken it. If we were discussing job loss in the marketplace, minimum wage, the unemployment rate, laziness or other social issues, perhaps and even then it would be a stretch but JimRocky's taken this conversation to a level that we are able to discuss the validity of different offers, why? How? Are they proven in other business factors?

It's your opinion and I wouldn't go so far as to hassle you for it hun, but I just found the comment about

needing to get off one's ass and go get a job

to be aside the point as to which pricing options are available and why.


JimRocky, back to your relevant posts about the caddy's. My sister made a post several days back comparing it to a gym. When I think about comparing it to Caddy's and Neon's here's the problem I get.

Caddys are high premium vehicles with all the gizmos and gadgets available with it that justify its price point.

Neon's price points while lower are justified by what is available to it.

A Caddy's price point is justified by what is available with it, which is not available with the neon, be it quality, performance, seperate traits.

Much like with the gym offer... ConquerClub is not providing certain premium members with a Caddy price and others with a Neon. Everyone gets the same capacity for paying the price. It's not an issue of Caddy or Neon, it's an issue of do you want a car or not

[hwhrhett]

the big problem with this caddy analogy is that what all the people that want different pricing options are saying is that

'i want the caddy, but im only gonna use it to drive to church on sundays so why the hell should i pay the same ammount for the caddy as someone that drives it every day??'

[Selucid Empire]

the big problem with this caddy analogy is that what all the people that want different pricing options are saying is that

'i want the caddy, but im only gonna use it to drive to church on sundays so why the hell should i pay the same ammount for the caddy as someone that drives it every day??'

I think hwhrhett is right... with his post along with my above post.

Selucid Empire wrote:

Much like with the gym offer... ConquerClub is not providing certain premium members with a Caddy price and others with a Neon. Everyone gets the same capacity for paying the price. It's not an issue of Caddy or Neon, it's an issue of do you want a car or not

[JimRocky]

the big problem with this caddy analogy is that what all the people that want different pricing options are saying is that

'i want the caddy, but im only gonna use it to drive to church on sundays so why the hell should i pay the same ammount for the caddy as someone that drives it every day??'

I think hwhrhett is right... with his post along with my above post.

Selucid Empire wrote:

Much like with the gym offer... ConquerClub is not providing certain premium members with a Caddy price and others with a Neon. Everyone gets the same capacity for paying the price. It's not an issue of Caddy or Neon, it's an issue of do you want a car or not

Perhaps my analogies aren't perfect, and it's certainly reasonable for people to have differing opinions, but I still feel I have a reasonable suggestion. I predict that should my idea be implemented in a well thought out manner that the end result would be positive for Conquer Club and the users thereof. I'm often right about these sort of things, (though I won't bore you with details), but of course no one is always right. I guess we will never know for sure what would happen unless it's tried.

[Jondalar]

Perhaps if you don't want to "overpay"---play those 8 months as if they were a year. Think you'd play 500 games in a year? Play 500 games in those 8 months. You'll get your money's worth then.

Premium Membership is wonderful, because it's up to you how much value you want to get out of it. If you are fine with 100 games in a year, that's splendid! If you'd like to instead play 1000, all the better too.


--Andy

Well said Andy.... come on guys... We are talking about $25 a year.... thats about $2 a month... thats less than a pint of lager...

[Hoots]

Perhaps my analogies aren't perfect, and it's certainly reasonable for people to have differing opinions, but I still feel I have a reasonable suggestion. I predict that should my idea be implemented in a well thought out manner that the end result would be positive for Conquer Club and the users thereof. I'm often right about these sort of things, (though I won't bore you with details), but of course no one is always right. I guess we will never know for sure what would happen unless it's tried.

Dont take this the wrong way JimRocky, but from reading your posts in this thread, like the "Im often right about these things comment" or mention of being "in business" earlier in the thread -- How can you ignore the fact that you are arguing over 4 cents a day? (I mentioned on pg 1 you feel $25 is too high but $10 is acceptable)....(25-10)/12/30 = about 4 cents a
day....

Arguing over principle is one thing but bringing $45K cars into the dicussion doesnt seem real valid to me.

You also ignore the fact that this change (or any software change) will have an associated cost with it... What would be the break even point for CC on this? Why is it in their best interest to create a pricing plan with cheaper options? How many people do you think share your opinion that a difference of 4 cents a day is worth not signing up for.

That is why the money side of it is relevant... Your stance is: It is beneficial for CC to spend the money/time/efforts to creat a $10 a year pricing level bc there is enough people in the world interested in risk type games who care about 4 cents a day enough to sign up for $10/year or nothing.../end run-on.

That is what you are saying right?

[Timminz]

One of the numerous previous times that this topic has come up, I seem to recall a response from someone official. They mentioned the fact that there are service fees associated with accepting each payment, and that this was a significant factor in the decision to stay with the flat rate pricing.

[JimRocky]

I like arguing for the sake of it. I really don't care about the small amount of money. I'll probably re-up in a while anyway. Never hurts to try for a discount, and like I said, I like debating crap for fun.

[hwhrhett]

i really think that if anything, lack should implement a $50 per year option where we get more stuff... like more than 50 games in the games waiting, extra game types, etc........ would probably be more benefitial to cc as a whole, lol... i know at least a few would probably sell...

[AndyDufresne]

Or, instead of making a 50 USD option...we will continue to add a few additional benefits to Premium Users...hm...the ideas...


--Andy