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Defense fail!ponzi wrote:this AA guy suicided on sevensociety, which pissed him off and he suicided back
they both handed me the win what can i say
not my fault i win a lot of 3 player games i don't even like sevensociety lol
Actually, I made the only move I could make which was to run away from both of your immense stacks, and I completely left his stack of 37 armies intact and hid in a corner. He, then instead of hitting the strongest player, suicided into me giving you the game in one turn.ponzi wrote:this AA guy suicided on sevensociety, which pissed him off and he suicided back
they both handed me the win what can i say
not my fault i win a lot of 3 player games i don't even like sevensociety lol
I take cheating seriously too. There is no slander of any kind. You or him have won every single three player you have ever played. This is simply a fact. I made the accusation well before the game was over when it was clear on turn one what was going to happen. I further only am posting my suspicion that a record like that, with two people executing the third in every single game they every played together is probable secret alliance, especially when I saw it happening on turn one in our game.SevenSociety wrote:I don't think accusations like this are funny and i take them seriously. I have no need of secret diplomacy. I enjoy 3 player games and know how to play them. I will follow up on this to see what happens to members like AA, that accuse out of vindictiveness and spite. A member should not be allowed to slander and accuse another member and get away with it.
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
Again, where is the slander? There is no part of my post that is a lie of any kind. A simple game search can confirm that. One of you always wins. Either its because you both play so as to favor one of you winning, or you are playing fairly and it is a coincidence. I simply am posting why I think it is not at all coincidence, and a result of a conscious decision between you too, that gives a third player a 0% chance of winning in a game with both of you.SevenSociety wrote:Thanks for the vote of confidence Arama86n. I play 3 player FS Classic almost exclusively and will play anyone who will join. I have played thousands of games and earned my rank honestly. Why I would risk a secret diplomacy when i win most 3 player Classic games in the first place regardless of the other 2 players. A look at my games with almost any player who knows how to play FS Classic 3 player (ex. Tdans, Murphy16) will show that either I or that player will win almost all the time if the 3rd player is not familiar with the gameplay. I will leave this to the "men in orange" to clear me but I stress again that I am not satisfied with just being cleared. I want irresponsible members who throw out accusations like this punished. If there is no punishment for vindictive accusations like this a precedence will be set essentially saying its "ok" to slander and accuse at will with no consequense.
Again, it is you doing the lying and "slandering". I left you with a stack of 37 that I easily could have suicided if I wanted to let green win. What I did instead was make my only possible move, which was to force you to actually fight green and not me. Instead you suicided with every army you had. Had you aimed your near 40 armies at him, the game was not nearly over. Especially if you did not attack my remaining men. Together we could have kept him at bay easily and made an actual game out of it...but instead, you did what happens in all of your games with him.... the third person was exterminated so one of you won...this time it was him. My turn was a last ditch effort, yours was the suicide. Again, not unexpectedly. As far as handing me the game. Both of you focused on keeping me the smallest player the entire time. There was never the possibility that I was about to get handed the game....especially since you are suggesting I suicided. To say you hit me to make sure I didnt win after I suicided, its as contradictory and the biggest lie yet, not to mention....well, just stupid.SevenSociety wrote:Your opportunity to prove you wrong meant handing you the game on a silver platter. In light of your suicide on me and slanderous accusations towards me i decided not to hand you the game.![]()
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You attack me and wipe out my bonus and leave me with 6 countries and then decide that in order to prove a baseless accusation i need to go ahead and attack the 3rd player is silly. I will see what happens to players like you who slander out of spite and vindictiveness. If you are not punished for this then it will mean open season on posting an C&A report on any player at any time for whatever reason. This is a dangerous precedent. You used the threat of a report to try to gain an advantage in the game and it failed.
Im not caught in any meaningless vindictive accusation in any way. I have posted that one of you wins in every single 3 player game you have ever played. That looks like cheating. I found it because on turn one, I saw the same thing happening in ours. That is to say, I was suspicious before having been suicided into or losing. In fact, I posted in spite of the fact that posting would probably seal my loss. Or in other words, was so convinced you were cheating, didnt even care about the game I was going to lose, and posted it because stopping two cheaters in my opinion was more important than any single game.SevenSociety wrote:I wont debate what is a matter of opinion. "And just one more time...the word slander means posts something untrue or made up." You are accusing me of a secret diplomacy and lying. In YOUR opinion you THINK what YOU did was NOT a suicide. You THINK that by handing you the game i could have cleared my name of your accusation. That is cohersion and is not allowed. You posted the facts in spite and that is also not allowed.
"I had posted it well before the game was over and for all I knew, I was going to win, so there simply was no reason for spite of vindictiveness" You claim that you knew you weren't going to win bc there was a secret diplomacy but then you claim for all you knew you were going to win so it wasn't out of vindictiveness. Well which one is it? or do you just want to twist the facts further. You got caught in a meaningless vindictive accusation and we are going to see how this plays out.
i beat u 2/2 times in 3 player games. and now u accuse me of having a vendetta against u for winning against me?SevenSociety wrote:it is quickly turning into a "lets bash Seven" party by anyone who i might have beaten or is angry at me. Clear this matter and put an end to what is becoming a vendetta with no proof.

If those numbers are true, and the games back it up, its actually more suspicious than what I presented. Davmoho would need to be shown suiciding in many of those games however. Further, it may very well just warrant a block between the two players, except if Seven really is in lots of games with others that end this way. Personally Id be surprised if that were the case, but if your info is correct, and the games back it up...it certainly seems possible.CamelToe wrote:davmoho has also thrown numerous 3 player games to SevenSociety. of the 15 they played, davmoho won zero and SevenSociety won 12. in the game i played with both of them (5657528) davmoho suicided me even though seven was by far the strongest. if u look through their games you'll see that davmoho suicided other players too.
these 2 obviously had secret diplomacy, or davmoho might be a multi of sevens
Suck It up princess...slander...lolSevenSociety wrote: I am not satisfied with just being cleared. I want irresponsible members who throw out accusations like this punished. If there is no punishment for vindictive accusations like this a precedence will be set essentially saying its "ok" to slander and accuse at will with no consequense.
I love your answer. =DLetGodSortThem wrote:Suck It up princess...slander...lolSevenSociety wrote: I am not satisfied with just being cleared. I want irresponsible members who throw out accusations like this punished. If there is no punishment for vindictive accusations like this a precedence will be set essentially saying its "ok" to slander and accuse at will with no consequense.
Sue him....
Yeah that may be fine and dandy but you are way better than ponzi and you wont win them all which ponzi and seven society have done. Also i looked at the games and some decent players joined those games...it would seem like a big coincidence if all of them lost to either secen society or ponzi.tdans wrote:this is retarded.. THis entire accusation is stupid.. Ponzi is a decent, albeit, retarded player... He has kicked my butt a few times.. And seven is A good player too.. to accuse Seven of cheating is kinda stupid.. In 3 plyr games.. If one player gets mad, well, The player who just sits by and watches wins.. AAfitz screwed up by hitting someone too much for no apparent reason, who cares if you left a stack.. the point is you attacked.. and just a small matter like that is enough to cost you the game.. Therefore, It may be easy to think that Some type of game throwing or secret diplomacy is going on, but to Be honest with you, If me and seven were to be 2 players in a 3 plyr games.. i would have to say that me or him would probably win every time.. it matters on who joins and who gets mad at who.. this accusation was based on anger and stupidity.. AAfitz.. grow up man.. you should know how this stuff works..
I have played 19 3 plyr games with seven.. and me or him have won 18 of them games.. OUr skill level is the reason.. NOt secret Diplomacy.. i dont need that to win a bloody game.. Before you start accusing people man.. Perhaps you should look at the gamestyle, and Mabye think about the strategy that goes into it? 3 plyr games are a crapshoot with strategy and being able to talk in game chat.. and Given your ability to get people angry in the forums.. Id assume you suck at talking guys outa doing stuff in a 3 plyr game.. Suck it up cupcake.. we all lose some.. and not all of us cheat to win..