Patch Wars [Quenched]

[ender516]

Aren't the blue army numbers hard to see on black? I think the pink is just fine.

[cairnswk]

Aren't the blue army numbers hard to see on black? I think the pink is just fine.

Well, towards the overall colour scheme, which for me is very important, i have to disagree with you ender516

[natty dread]

Aren't the blue army numbers hard to see on black?

Yes they are, and as such black should be avoided as army circle colour.

[DiM]

here's how it looks now with light pink:


black:


blue:


i'd still go for pink but let's hear what you all think.

[isaiah40]

I believe that the pink works the best.

[DiM]

as for the casper pattern i think it's the size of the squares that bothers you. so how about if i decrease their size like so:

now:

half size:

[koontz1973]

The black looks nice but the pink works the best. As for the size of pattern, the smaller one looks better as it sits well with the ones around it.

[natty dread]

The blue could work if it was lighter.

[AndyDufresne]

The blue could work if it was lighter.

It might. But I'm probably quite satisfied with his pink version.


--Andy

[DiM]

ok, then pink stays and i'll also implement the reduced squares for the casper patch.

[cairnswk]

ok, then pink stays and i'll also implement the reduced squares for the casper patch.

That's a bit fast, eh Dim? Less than 1 day for consideration by others in the foundry?
I know you want pink 'coz you've got a little girl, and Natty did offer that

The blue could work if it was lighter.

Where is the option of light blue that i gave...not considered eh?

The colours that work really well as parts of the overall design are light blue R201 G241 B243

And i'd like to see how the small sqaures work when i see them in the overall design. You obviously don't want to change anything!

[DiM]

You obviously don't want to change anything!

say what?

i just provided several versions of army boxes so you can't say i haven't tried.
also i tweaked the square pattern and said i will implement that change. so how can you say i don't want to change anything when i already changed something?
it's absurd.

PS: i still think the pink looks better than your light blue because the pink shade i used is more discreet. plus, in my head, it fits better with the theme.

[cairnswk]

You obviously don't want to change anything!

say what?

i just provided several versions of army boxes so you can't say i haven't tried.
also i tweaked the square pattern and said i will implement that change. so how can you say i don't want to change anything when i already changed something?
it's absurd.

PS: i still think the pink looks better than your light blue because the pink shade i used is more discreet. plus, in my head, it fits better with the theme.

the reason i said that was because you didn't consider the light blue in the your round of options, you didn't offer another stitch style pattern apart from reducing the checker size, and one day later decided to push your way through by announcing pink as the go with a reduced size same pattern.
Talk about absurd. yes in your head it fits better coz you'ge got a girl.
Dim, you have often credited me with having good colour aesthetic on my maps.
I am trying to get this colour aspect into your head and improve your map, but you're being stubborn. That's why i said it.
But you obviously know everything as being best, so go ahead and do pink. What do i know?!

[DiM]

i think you're being a bit extreme here. i haven't said i know best and i haven't denied changes.
i've only expressed my opinion and i have provided alternatives and compromises.
i'm sorry that's not good enough for you and you feel the need to snap like that.
it's impossible to please each and every person especially when it comes to such a subjective thing as graphics. you should know that.
you're the only person who complained about the casper patch. i provided a compromise. i think that's good enough.
you wanted different army boxes. i came up with 2 alternatives and you came with a 3rd. i still think the initial pink is the best choice. not all feedback gets implemented, sometimes we just fiddle with choices and come back to the original idea.

[zimmah]

that works for me, nice job.

[zimmah]

a lose thread or two.

Loose.

lool

[zimmah]

ok, then pink stays and i'll also implement the reduced squares for the casper patch.

That's a bit fast, eh Dim? Less than 1 day for consideration by others in the foundry?
I know you want pink 'coz you've got a little girl, and Natty did offer that

The blue could work if it was lighter.

Where is the option of light blue that i gave...not considered eh?

The colours that work really well as parts of the overall design are light blue R201 G241 B243

And i'd like to see how the small sqaures work when i see them in the overall design. You obviously don't want to change anything!

just because you hate pink doesn't mean pink is bad. it works for visibility and fits the theme. and i think the light blue you used as an example looks out of place and i think cyan may not even be clearly visible on that one.

as for the size of the squares, i slightly prefer the smaller ones but they both look fine to me.

also about DiM not willing to chance anything, i think DiM is among the best mapmakers in this aspect as even when he doesn't like it he's willing to change 95% of his original map idea's if the MAYORITY of the community wants it. yes, he'll give his own opinion too and he can be a little disappointed that his artistic idea's do not get the love he expected, but that's just normal, he spent a lot of times at his maps and ideas and just to get critics about it can be hard, but DiM always tries to make the best maps possible that also are accepted by the community.

and if i made a map i wouldn't change something just because 1 person wants it different while a number of people have said it's fine like it is.

[zimmah]

You obviously don't want to change anything!

say what?

i just provided several versions of army boxes so you can't say i haven't tried.
also i tweaked the square pattern and said i will implement that change. so how can you say i don't want to change anything when i already changed something?
it's absurd.

PS: i still think the pink looks better than your light blue because the pink shade i used is more discreet. plus, in my head, it fits better with the theme.

the reason i said that was because you didn't consider the light blue in the your round of options, you didn't offer another stitch style pattern apart from reducing the checker size, and one day later decided to push your way through by announcing pink as the go with a reduced size same pattern.
Talk about absurd. yes in your head it fits better coz you'ge got a girl.
Dim, you have often credited me with having good colour aesthetic on my maps.
I am trying to get this colour aspect into your head and improve your map, but you're being stubborn. That's why i said it.
But you obviously know everything as being best, so go ahead and do pink. What do i know?!

dude, pink goes very well with brown.

[firsal901]

I think its kinda cluttered. No on this one.

[DiM]

V9:
Large:

Click image to enlarge.

Small:

Click image to enlarge.

[zimmah]

is it an optical illusion or is the color on the casper zone different on the small map?

it appears more yellowish


not that it matters, but it's just weird.

[DiM]

fixed in the image above.

[zimmah]

fixed in the image above.

oh and just for consistency, the legend icon still shows the old big yellowish squares on both small and large map.

that being said, is it possible to give all of those icons a different stitch, that matches the stitch of the zone border, so that it's even easier to differentiate them?

i'm not sure how it will affect the overall style of the map as i don't want to break it, but especially the legends for quaky and fluffy on the small map (but even a bit on the large map) look very alike, and i believe using different stitches may improve the 'readability' of the legend. just a small suggestion.

oh and also it bothers me a little that all the buttons of the same type and size are exactly in the same position, could you rotate some of them so that they don't look unrealistically perfect? if that makes any sense? i mean like all the white buttons have their holes like so / in exactly the same angle and all the cyan ones are like so -- in the same angle, so why not just rotate them even if it's just 2 or 3 degrees? because i have never seen any perfect stitching like that and if it's supposed to be perfectly aligned then you should align all the buttons to be aligned regardless of color and shape.

[DiM]

fixed see image above.

[zimmah]

fixed see image above.

added some more nitpicking, sorry dim