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kylegraves1 wrote:I would say most members of this site are interested in history.
The symbol in question is part of history.
Why would you want to ban discussion or support for or against what has happened.
If a symbol you see on an internet forum offends you, suck it up.
i actually find that quite fascinating... not only every state in US have different laws, but in Britain or Holland for example you have far more freedom then any american could imagine.Leehar wrote:I'm just concerned that the last 2 posters have somehow made this about america? Does every convo need to turn into an America is the stalwart of the free world and the last bastion against oppression, bla bla bla?

Talk about taking things out of context.... I mentioned America twice. Once was to make the point that I have no clue what it is like to live in a country that has been invaded and the second time was only to mention the freedom of speech because someone had said that the symbol had been banned in several countries.Leehar wrote:I'm just concerned that the last 2 posters have somehow made this about america? Does every convo need to turn into an America is the stalwart of the free world and the last bastion against oppression, bla bla bla?

The post that immediately follows:agentcom wrote:I only read the first and last page of this thread. Apparently, there was some yelling going on in between, but the limited amount I read was a near-miraculous (by internet forum standards) discussion of Nazism, Swastikas, intolerance and racism. I commend those of you that posted on this last page.
For similar reasons to lynch, above, I don't care what kind of avatars people put on their profiles. Everyone should have the right to express themselves. However, we also have to consider that not all societies are as liberal in their promotion of free speech as America. While I doubt CC will ever draw the ire of a national government, lack and other CC mods have to be aware that in some countries is may be illegal to display the swastika, which CC might be doing if it displayed some people's avatars. This is unfortunate for free speech, in my opinion, but the purpose of this site is not to promote free speech but to provide an environment to play a game. I don't think it is CC's place to try to take a stand on this issue. Instead, if they must, I understand them forcing players to remove avatars if they feel that it would be illegal to do otherwise.
I must have cast some sort of spell. By complimenting folks on their demeanor, I unleashed the trolls somehow.Leehar wrote:I'm just concerned that the last 2 posters have somehow made this about america? Does every convo need to turn into an America is the stalwart of the free world and the last bastion against oppression, bla bla bla?

Gosh. Let's all write to Wikipedia and complain.eddie2 wrote:http://wiki.answers.com/Q/In_what_count ... ol_illegal
so brazil 107 members.
poland 28 members
germany 136 members
hungary 38 members
no matter what gets said like the link above says the religious symbols are ok but when you link it to germany then it becomes a problem this site is a international site and the 4 countrys above are not allowed to display the symbol and could end up with criminal action against them if they play in public and it is seen as for dim you should be stripped of moderator powers for your above post displaying the symbol with hitler.

+1Chariot of Fire wrote:It tickles me that anyone could join a wargaming site and take offence at a symbol that undeniably represents a chapter in the history of human conflict.
Would someone who is easily offended by nudity take out a subscription to Playboy? Unlikely, right?. Or if one did he would no doubt be scoffed at for airing his grievances.
So surely in this instance - as with any business - it's important to qualify one's candidates and cater to the majority accordingly.
This site is a vehicle for us to enjoy friendly adversity on a fantastic array of maps (works of art, really) which both celebrate and commemorate milestones in our journey to where we are today. To ignore or deride any part of that history, given this site's raison d'etre, is both blinkered and over-reactionary.
That's pretty much my whole take on this issue.
"Quieta non movere"
just admit you used french and latin to piss off WBChariot of Fire wrote:It tickles me that anyone could join a wargaming site and take offence at a symbol that undeniably represents a chapter in the history of human conflict.
Would someone who is easily offended by nudity take out a subscription to Playboy? Unlikely, right?. Or if one did he would no doubt be scoffed at for airing his grievances.
So surely in this instance - as with any business - it's important to qualify one's candidates and cater to the majority accordingly.
This site is a vehicle for us to enjoy friendly adversity on a fantastic array of maps (works of art, really) which both celebrate and commemorate milestones in our journey to where we are today. To ignore or deride any part of that history, given this site's raison d'etre, is both blinkered and over-reactionary.
That's pretty much my whole take on this issue.
"Quieta non movere"

Let sleeping dogs lie, good ideafreakns wrote:Chariot of Fire wrote:"Quieta non movere"freakns wrote:Just admit you used french and latin to piss off WB![]()
and you should be stripped of any educational diplomas you have, for tormenting the english language like that.eddie2 wrote:as for dim you should be stripped of moderator powers for your above post displaying the symbol with hitler.

