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Was looking for games to join and couldn't help but notice obvious farming of new recruits, after looking at further games that JOHNNYROCKET24 it is quite clear that he/she is more than happy to join difficult maps with new recruits. this is clear to either maintain a good high score or manipulate his points score. looks like hes been here a while so would expect better. I understand some old timers help new recruits and before posting this I worried this was the case but with no chat in the game and map settings being some of the hardest for new recruits, then surely this is not helping new recruits its farming (Apologies if this is wrong but I see this a lot and usually I just ignore as its so prevailant in CC but this is just too obvious to ignore)
Was looking for games to join and couldn't help but notice obvious farming of new recruits, after looking at further games that JOHNNYROCKET24 it is quite clear that he/she is more than happy to join difficult maps with new recruits. this is clear to either maintain a good high score or manipulate his points score. looks like hes been here a while so would expect better. I understand some old timers help new recruits and before posting this I worried this was the case but with no chat in the game and map settings being some of the hardest for new recruits, then surely this is not helping new recruits its farming (Apologies if this is wrong but I see this a lot and usually I just ignore as its so prevailant in CC but this is just too obvious to ignore)
As much as I dislike demonfork, he's right on the money here... What, so Johnnyrocket can't join games with newbies??? Is he relegated to some higher level of playing than EVERYONE else?
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As JDsizzleslice said its ll games excluding tourney games. I have no problem with people playing new recruits, it shows that your not afraid to play anyone and you will play anyone that wants too. Solely playing new recruits I have an issue with and I would assume CC club too. You want new recruits to stay around and the only way is to ensure fair games, experienced players solely playing new recruits stops new players being interested.
if a new recruit wants to lose to a well rounded play i say im for it! it helped me become a better player, who knows that might be there mind set as well.
ridiculous.... anyone should be able to join anyone else's games.... if he doesn't invite them, there is no issue... if you put up a public game, anyone can join... and you should be able to join any public game that is up....
moreover? you're factually wrong with the way you worded this thread... what he does, right or wrong, is by definition, not farming... you can call it whatever you want, but it's not that.... @ least CC hasn't defined it as such @ this point, and I hope they never do...
Jdsizzleslice wrote:Excluding tournament games, it seems he joins almost all his games with new recruits.
and LOL @ this... he does join many new recruit games.. you're leaving out the fact that the huge majority of these are games with 4 or more players... hardly farming when the rest of the competion is @ least, presumably, somewhat competent.... one of the worst threads ever here, and people supporting this frivolous accusation are completely lost...
It's really hard to get medal achievements if you rule out games with new recruits..Unique defeats are paramount. [player]JOHNNYROCKET24[/player]is probably looking for unique defeats.He's kind of predicable in that respect. He was the first to this and that I vaguely remember. I just can't imagine him farming.
KoE_Sirius wrote:It's really hard to get medal achievements if you rule out games with new recruits..Unique defeats are paramount. [player]JOHNNYROCKET24[/player]is probably looking for unique defeats.He's kind of predicable in that respect. He was the first to this and that I vaguely remember. I just can't imagine him farming.
point taken.... and for all I know you're right... but this misses the point... it's by definition (CC's definition), not farming regardless
I got 30 active Scotland terminator games to get my medal. Over 100 tournament games either active or just completed. Numerous auto tournament games joined and waiting for start. Handful games with various ranks. But I join a few against some new recruits and I farm to get 2300 points? Someone dint do their homework. Also, all those games are not even against new recruits and there are other high ranks playing in the same game.
nice job ! you found 1 game that could be considered farming. I dont send invites to new recruits. I dont just play new recruits. I am no where near the top of the score board. In fact, only 1% of my games are against a new recruit. So what is being farmed? According to this, I can never play a new recruit.
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Jdsizzleslice wrote:Excluding tournament games, it seems he joins almost all his games with new recruits.
and LOL @ this... he does join many new recruit games.. you're leaving out the fact that the huge majority of these are games with 4 or more players... hardly farming when the rest of the competion is @ least, presumably, somewhat competent.... one of the worst threads ever here, and people supporting this frivolous accusation are completely lost...
I didn't accuse anybody of anything... I just simply stated, that outside of tournament games, the majority of his games include players that are a New Recruit. That's all I said.
I just created 11 random games if you want to join. Beware, I might farm you and make it to 2400 points which puts me less than 50% to being Conqueror.....
This was nothing to do with games that he started only games he joined there is no proble with that as players join at there own risk. If it is acceptable to join games with new recruits(excluding tourneys) simply to take advantage of the fact they do not know how to play new levels and nothing happens that's fine. If that's how people want to keep there scores up high. This is exactly why people don't write reports in cc as as usual friends get involved and make personal attacks. And if he's medal hunting there's thousands of people to join games with doesn't have to be new recruits
stumeister69 wrote:This was nothing to do with games that he started only games he joined there is no proble with that as players join at there own risk. If it is acceptable to join games with new recruits(excluding tourneys) simply to take advantage of the fact they do not know how to play new levels and nothing happens that's fine. If that's how people want to keep there scores up high. This is exactly why people don't write reports in cc as as usual friends get involved and make personal attacks. And if he's medal hunting there's thousands of people to join games with doesn't have to be new recruits
According to you, I should play games outside of what i desire just to collect defeats. I bypass on a lot of games because I already beat that player and I dont like games that include a lot of players. New recruits are players too and they have the same right to play me as I do to play them. I dont con them into games with invites. I dont create games with rediculous settings to lure easy players into my games and I dont just play new recruits. I keep over 100 active games at any given time with 95% of them not against a new recruit. And guess what, I lose to the new recruits too but that is how I catch all the multis that I have already busted. I have broken no rules and I have not used the points I have won from new recruits to climb the scoreboard. I have 2100 points !!! Learn the definition of what farming is before trying to tarnish a player.
I've been told in the past that doing this type of thing for medals was ok. Not with NR's, but with various people who may be low ranked. I was told it was ok to do with private games and invitations to the players as long as it was for medals. If that's really true, I don't see a case here unless we want to change that precedent I was given.
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