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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:27 am

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mrswdk wrote:And why do those gays (or anyone else, for that matter) want to get married in the first place? Are they going to get their kids a Bar Mitzvah too, or would that be judged to trivialize and demean Judaic rituals?


Well, it's not just a ritual anymore; there are specific legal rights and benefits associated with getting married.


give the government an inch, they end up with the whole thing. Remember, separation of church n state, freedom of religion, until the state takes over, cuz, redistribution and fairness IE Progress the 14th trumps the 1st, trumps everything FTW

R.I.P. Liberty.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:35 am

mrswdk wrote:Real equality would be to allow everyone to have access to that medical care, regardless of marital status. Even if you give gay guys the same opportunity as everyone else to receive legal perks via cynical exploitation of the Christian faith, you are still arbitrarily excluding all un-married people from those services.


We are not talking about access to medical services. We are talking about the ability for spouses to make important medical decisions on the behalf of their partners, when their partner cannot (such as if they are in a coma), and the ability for them to actually have visitation rights when their partner is in the hospital.

As for the gay people who genuinely belong to a branch of Christianity/Islam whatever: I have always wondered what would make a gay person participate in a religion that refuses to legitimize their lifestyle and instead declares it an abomination. Do such people even exist?


Yes, of course such people exist. The Bible also has such gems as...

"Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet."

"Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled."

"A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God."

...and yet lots of women also participate in Christianity. Gays are far from the only group that participate in a religion that traditionally treated them poorly. There's very little to wonder about why a gay person would participate in a religion -- it happens for the same reason any person does. They were indoctrinated into it from a young age. Some gay people do renounce their religion because of these issues, but if you've grown up believing that it's a central tenet of your existence, that can't be easy.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:38 am

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mrswdk wrote:And why do those gays (or anyone else, for that matter) want to get married in the first place? Are they going to get their kids a Bar Mitzvah too, or would that be judged to trivialize and demean Judaic rituals?


Well, it's not just a ritual anymore; there are specific legal rights and benefits associated with getting married.


give the government an inch, they end up with the whole thing. Remember, separation of church n state, freedom of religion, until the state takes over, cuz, redistribution and fairness IE Progress the 14th trumps the 1st, trumps everything FTW

R.I.P. Liberty.


*shrug* I'm not the one who decided that a ceremony that was traditionally religious in nature should be co-opted to become a ceremony that is now mainly of civil importance. But it happened, and so the 14th amendment either demands marriages for no one (and maybe some sort of "civil union" thing to take care of the legal rights that people generally want) or marriages for everyone. Extending marriage rights to gay people doesn't violate the first amendment "more." If the first amendment was violated, it happened a long time ago. And by people who were religious and wanted to violate the first amendment for their own benefit.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby mrswdk on Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:46 pm

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mrswdk wrote:Real equality would be to allow everyone to have access to that medical care, regardless of marital status. Even if you give gay guys the same opportunity as everyone else to receive legal perks via cynical exploitation of the Christian faith, you are still arbitrarily excluding all un-married people from those services.


We are not talking about access to medical services. We are talking about the ability for spouses to make important medical decisions on the behalf of their partners, when their partner cannot (such as if they are in a coma), and the ability for them to actually have visitation rights when their partner is in the hospital.


Semantics aside, my point remains the same.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:09 pm

mrswdk wrote:
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mrswdk wrote:Real equality would be to allow everyone to have access to that medical care, regardless of marital status. Even if you give gay guys the same opportunity as everyone else to receive legal perks via cynical exploitation of the Christian faith, you are still arbitrarily excluding all un-married people from those services.


We are not talking about access to medical services. We are talking about the ability for spouses to make important medical decisions on the behalf of their partners, when their partner cannot (such as if they are in a coma), and the ability for them to actually have visitation rights when their partner is in the hospital.


Semantics aside, my point remains the same.


I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you saying that real equality demands that any random person can walk in off the street and decide to pull the plug if I end up in a brain-dead state?
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby mrswdk on Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:00 pm

Well in the case of your hospital stuff, I would ask why married couples get those rights but unmarried couples don't.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby notyou2 on Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:31 pm

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Is David Brat really a tea partyer?

Is it accurate to call Dave Brat a tea party member? After all, that’s a label that Mr. Brat himself rejects. Asked yesterday by Politico if he’s a tea partyer, Brat replied that he wishes the press would stop describing his victory as a triumph of the insurgent Republican right wing.

That said ā€œtea partyā€ may be as much descriptive of attitude and style as of policy choice. According to political scientist Ron Rapoport of The College of William & Mary, the tea party per se constitutes a majority of the active Republican Party. It’s a big tent itself, with only about a quarter of self-identified tea party activists labeling themselves libertarians. The better term to capture what many people mean by ā€œtea party activistā€ is ā€œanti-establishment activist,ā€ Professor Rapoport says.

ā€œAll the investment banks in ... those guys should have gone to jail. Instead of going to jail, they went on Eric’s Rolodex, and they are sending him big checks,ā€ said Brat on the campaign trail last month, according to a John Judis piece on the subject in The New Republic.

With this language, Brat was drawing on an old tradition in US politics, writes Mr. Judis: economic populism. On the left, it has its roots in figures such as Huey Long of Louisiana. On the right, it echoes in the words of George Wallace and Pat Buchanan.

ā€œThe Tea Party is a heterogeneous movement, but many of its members, and many of the local candidates it champions, are rightwing populists. And that was certainly true of Brat,ā€ writes Judis.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder ... tyer-video

How Tea Party groups missed the David Brat boat

So how much did their groups spend to help Brat win?

Zero.

Of the measly $4,805 in political expenditures against Cantor reported to the Federal Election Commission, none came from the big national tea party groups, according to data compiled by the nonpartisan Sunlight Foundation.

The fact that Brat took off without the help of those organizations now makes it harder for them to claim his victory as their own.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... brat-boat/


The Tea Party comes from the grassroots, as well as the kind of radio shows that would have him on over the past few months. Anyone who is for reduced spending and will vote against raising deficits and is for cutting government and taking the Constitution seriously is okay in my book, regardless their stance on gay marriage or abortion or any of the other social footballs that get kicked around.

Our type can work with Democrats on many issues, including scaling back the NSA and respecting the 4th amendment as well as anti-big bank legislation.


Your hypocrisy is showing again Phatso. You don't support the first amendment.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby kuthoer on Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:37 pm

Phatts does not believe in BIG GOVERNMENT, unless it pushes his ideology.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:29 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Anyone who is for ... taking the Constitution seriously is okay in my book, regardless their stance on gay marriage


Does the 14th amendment not count as the part of the Constitution that they need to take seriously?


that's kinda of like asking if pro-choice people take murdering babies seriously.


Hardly. In the case of abortion, there are arguably competing rights at stake. In the case of gay marriage, there's not. The 14th amendment clearly calls for equal protection under the law, so taking the Constitution seriously requires you to be in support of marriage equality.


But are you saying a line can never be drawn at what is marriage and what isn't? Why can't 8 people get married? I ask, do you draw a line somewhere? brother n sister? do you draw a line?

Where?


What's wrong with eight people getting married? (serious)

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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby danfrank666 on Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:23 pm

mrswdk wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Real equality would be to allow everyone to have access to that medical care, regardless of marital status. Even if you give gay guys the same opportunity as everyone else to receive legal perks via cynical exploitation of the Christian faith, you are still arbitrarily excluding all un-married people from those services.


We are not talking about access to medical services. We are talking about the ability for spouses to make important medical decisions on the behalf of their partners, when their partner cannot (such as if they are in a coma), and the ability for them to actually have visitation rights when their partner is in the hospital.


Semantics aside, my point remains the same.



Your suggesting somehow that married people are receiving better healthcare than the unmarried. You see (uh oh) i am not opposed to civil unions. I am not overly religious either, church on occasion, a prayer on holidays . But the culture of the left is to trample CHRISTIANITY / CATHOLICISM / what ever denomination you may be . The goal is to make a secular US OF A . In the name of political correctness and gay rights.
AND FOR THE RECORD I HAVE NEVER EVER BEEN STOPPED VISITING ANYONE IN THE HOSPITAL, I WAS NEVER TOLD IT IS TIME TO GO and if your paperwork was in order , i as a married person still have my PROXY paperwork :geek: Notarized :idea:
then you can put your loved one to sleep.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again!!!!!!!!!!!

Postby pimpdave on Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:36 pm

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It's the only reasonable explanation for how Cantor lost.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby Phatscotty on Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:26 pm

Look at this! All of a sudden your stereotypical 'Mississippi Republican' (6 term senator) Thad Cochran is THEE BEST friend of the entire African-American race in Mississippi. Who Knew? Cochran is out actively pursuing Democrats, giving speeches on how Liberal he really is.



Personally, I find it HILARIOUS to see the reality IS the only thing Republicans and Democrats will work together on is in stopping the Tea Party! Look at the complete level of bullshit the media is absolutely adoring with constant rotation, even though it is their absolute narrative to use the 'Mississippi Republican' and the 'Louisiana Republican' to be a racist old white man who hates blacks.



Tell you what; this reality shows me everything I need to know about establishment politicians and the Republican and Democrat '2 party system' The 1 party system in perfect sync with the media is clickin ALL cogs 24-7, because it's crystal clear we are a serious threat to politics as asual!

THROW THE BUMS OUT! ALL OF THEM!
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby Phatscotty on Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:07 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
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Metsfanmax wrote:
mrswdk wrote:And why do those gays (or anyone else, for that matter) want to get married in the first place? Are they going to get their kids a Bar Mitzvah too, or would that be judged to trivialize and demean Judaic rituals?


Well, it's not just a ritual anymore; there are specific legal rights and benefits associated with getting married.


give the government an inch, they end up with the whole thing. Remember, separation of church n state, freedom of religion, until the state takes over, cuz, redistribution and fairness IE Progress the 14th trumps the 1st, trumps everything FTW

R.I.P. Liberty.


*shrug* I'm not the one who decided that a ceremony that was traditionally religious in nature should be co-opted to become a ceremony that is now mainly of civil importance. But it happened, and so the 14th amendment either demands marriages for no one (and maybe some sort of "civil union" thing to take care of the legal rights that people generally want) or marriages for everyone. Extending marriage rights to gay people doesn't violate the first amendment "more." If the first amendment was violated, it happened a long time ago. And by people who were religious and wanted to violate the first amendment for their own benefit.


Such a gentle way of putting how yall hijacked it and bragged about it in the process. Marriage is a religious institution, say you didn't decide that all you want, but it's the same as 'i'm not the one who wrote the bill of rights....so....' marriage always has been religious, until progressives decided we need to have redistribution of wealth through our tax code, and BOOM, here we are! Because taxes are involved, oh, yup, it's a human right now! sorry religion, but there is redistribution of income involved, too bad so sad. :(

It's clear that is exactly how progressives operate, and you pretend it's okay to start perverting things from their true meaning in every area you can. "but it happened' yeah, I wouldn't expect you to say anything else. I can tell you know how it went down and you don't want to deal with the reality that Progress is indeed anti-Liberty. 'shrug, I didn't invent Liberty, so F it!"

Bottom line, amendments are not supposed to go against other amendments. Hopefully now that you had a couple years to think about it you will concede I did in fact have a legitimate point that gay marriage will in fact chip away at the first amendment, and that's one of the two most important amendments that everybody knows about and understands are lynchpins of Freedom and Liberty. Oh but you couldn't believe that I was standing up for everyone rights then, oh no, it must be because Scotty is just a racist bigot and he hates, so i'm gonna hate him and people like them and not even listen to what they say, cuz anyone who disagrees with progressives, well heck they are barely even human and probly dont deserve those rights anyways.

per civil unions, that what we already had. that's what the gay-agenda said they wanted, and they wouldn't push for totally pressuring the government to hijack the institution, but in all fairness I think it's the government who exploited the gays on this one. 'It's all about who you love' Why don't you guys just come right out and say it, there is no room for thought anymore, all that matters is what makes you orgasm the hardest, or what people feel, because that is EXACTLY what Progressives have turn America into. We are no longer a land of laws and equal justice, we are now a land of whatever feels good at the moment do it and social justice. this is how yall did your part to destroy our first amendment rights, and in the end it was all based on where people like to stick their genitalia. F'ing bizarre.

You guys are WAY out there, taking the 14th amendment that freed the slaves and turn that into marriage is a human right????? and doesn't belong to the church anymore, cuz hey we just said so. we just took it. That's why our argument has always been correct about how taxation has the power to destroy. That's how the government, once some kind of benefit is invented out of thin air, all of a sudden becomes a right and destroys whatever used to be in it's place. I have to look at that and see the writing is on the wall for what was once a great country of rule and law and Freedom and Liberty with opportunity for all. I'm pretty sure we can all agree the opportunity part of that might never come back, and a large majority of us know we've lost so much Freedom there can't be much left anymore, Heck, every baby born in America is born into $193,000 in debt. Yes, that's all you guys. I have given LESS SPENDING LESS GOVERNMENT everything I had at all times through my life, I gave and we have given George Bush and overspending corrupt Republicans almost as much crap as I give Obama, but we were bitching about 300 and 400 billion deficits and now we have trillion+ dollar deficits back to back annually?? Of course the criticism is going to be much more fierce, but remember, that can't be true we care about debt and deficits, so it must be racism, and that's how you ended up contributing to the whole thing. And I'm sure at least history will mark that there were a group of American who did try to stop it, and looking back it will look like a whole sector of the German people standing up to and surrounding Hitler and tried to stop him in his tracks. Oh yeah wait, national socialism doesn't describe the new America at all, right????? wait, you're gonna call it 'state capitalism' oh how dandy.

And then hey, while you are at it, why don't you just go all the f'ing way with destroying the first amendment, and therefore basically all the rest (how can you defend your rights if you don't have the right to speak?????????????) and start banning hurtful words because they hurt people feelings. OH WAIT YOU ARE ALREADY DOING THAT TOO! TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S RACIAL, AND ONE RACE CAN'T SAY IT, BUT THE OTHER RACES CAN? Nobody else can use hurtful words against a gay, but if a gay says the exact same f'ing thing, then it's okay, cuz that person is gay. R.I.P. equal justice eh? I guarantee you will reap what you have sewn.

Go make up a new national anthem, because I'm not going to sit there like a idiot and get riled up at telling myself we are the land of the free, because we aren't. Sure, we still have our guns, but you guys are working double time on that one too, aren't ya??? And if Congress disagrees with you, you'll just use the nuclear option, and the president can just go around Congress whenever they want, since they disagree with you, and you are always right, therefore they are always wrong. Who even needs a Congress huh? Yeah Progressives are great American patriots lemme tell ya. And don't ever call out your own president when he so absolutely clearly breaks the law. the laws of our land are okay to break, if you dont like them. Just go right ahead and wipe your deuces with the bill of rights, not only do they not mean shit to you, but you had to make sure nobody else has any rights left either. Once the 1st and 2nd amendment are minimized and attacked enough, that's it, it's all over. LOOK AT WHERE THE F WE ARE RIGHT NOW! Freedom of speech (unless it's hurtful/unless it threatens the monopoly) freedom of religion (religion is dumb anyways/only reserved for non-Christians) freedom of the press (to have off the record closed door meetings with the president every week and spoonfeed the nation the white house talking points as fact with orders to laugh anyone off the stage that disagree with official state media) freedom to redress of grievances (oh well you are white so shut up you don't know what real problems are cry me a river whitey) The right to bear arms (yeah but you don't need that, cuz you said so, and we promise the government will never get out of hand and always tells the truth) That is where the F we are right now. Thank yall Progressives so much, your bleeding hearts are so f'ing glorious and I'm sure you feel great about yourselves.

I hope it bites you in the ass someday, HARD, and I don't just mean you, but I mean Wodruff, and Greekdog (Obama is Conservative!), and NotYou2, Andy, Pimpdave, all the people who couldn't figure out they were crapping their own rights away because they didn't want to believe Progressives were that nefarious and calculating, and only have people's best interest at heart, they wanted to be liked and fit in to the point they would back off their own principles, to the point yall argued principles and values and morals and heritage and tradition are stupid, of course unless it's a minorities heritage and traditions, THEN you have to name a f'ing holiday for them and close all schools and government and banks down don't ya? and then you want to blame something else for young people flipping out and shooting shit up, at the same time you make sure that children are not taught 'thou shall not murder'.

Insanity breeds insanity, and everything that made America great, Progressives have turned their backs on. Hope you are happy dealing with those consequences for the rest of your life. Letting the president get away with the IRS targeting certain groups, oh yeah, mark my mother f'ing words, that one is definitely gonna come back around many times over, but hey, it was the Tea Party he was targeting, so doing what got Nixon impeached....totally cool with yall! Go ahead and say nothing when the president sends our military to Libya and selling weapons to Syria without even telling Congress and while he is in a foreign country, and now that Iraq is totally FUBAR, go ahead and blame Congress for not being gone around by the president the times it's unpopular. Don't make a peep when our ambassador gets hung out to dry, but make sure when it's a traitor we are bringing home that everyone knows we don't leave our Americans behind. So long as you remember to point out the president said 'military Americans' because ambassadors are not military, so you got your bases covered.

Don't you dare blame the next president when they do the exact same things to you x2. I know ya will though, but the truly sad part is you will have destroyed the only people that were being consistent, and don't wonder where they are. They have probably all gone Galt. Let's see you people with the big mouths trying to spend everyone elses money on every little thing your heart desires, guess what, YOU are gonna be stuck with the tab. At least there will be a bit of poetic justice. Feel free to spend hundreds of billions of dollars we don't have (hey, just steal it from whoever ya want!) on welcoming in 40 million immigrants who have no desire to learn your language respect your flag or contribute to your society they only want to send all the money to their home country and fly their flag in your face, and wouldn't you guys be extra swell if you progressives just kept playing Demographic Gods and convincing yourselves eventually the different races with different cultures will just integrate on their own, except the complete opposite is happening and the different races self segregate but you just keep on with your little experiments because you want to be diverse, then to roll the red carpet out for 10 million Muslims who see America invading their 'home' countries and decide you are the great satan, who WILL set up loud speakers all throughout your neighborhoods and blast their prayers over entire cities as their religion will be protected but yours is not (already many precedents set for that), and don't even consider if there are any jobs or not, or if there is any food or water when they get here, just stack em up on top of each other like the president is doing now down in Texas, run up the trillions on free health care yall stupidly mocked as crazy for thinking there were death panels involved, when we now find out there are death panels for our veterans which deserve good health care the most by far. You guys are on the record defending Obamacare all the way eating the lies right out of his hands and going back for seconds, and it's already so clearly not doing anything close to what you said it would do. I will bet you just need another trillion dollars eh? Go ahead and cheer your guy every time he violates the Constitution and goes around Congress and drones whoever the hell they want and sends our troops and your children wherever the hell it will fatten them and their donors pockets, because it's your president, they don't have to follow the laws of the land, your president gets to make it up as they go. So don't you dare bitch when it comes around full circle. And where were your people voting when it came to smashing the 4th amendment and storing every citizens most personal information? Oh, gay marriage was more important, I forgot. I suppose you will start to get mad when it's a Republican doing to you even harder. And the bottom line every time the next president sticks it to ya? Well, the last president got away with it, how can we hold future president accountable for what past presidents were not even criticized for? Yup, that's yall too.

The Tea Party is going to continue to reform Washington as best we can for as long as possible for a peaceful solution. Just remember to destroy us and slander us as often as possible so we stay on the exact same track we are on just always moving 'forward' faster toward a 30 trillion dollar debt that the Chinese and Russians with their gold backed money are gonna send trillions of dollars of cash back into the US economy and your milk is gonna cost you 50 bucks a gallon and it will be chalk full of chemicals and hormones. As China and Russia are going to start making their military moves around the world and start disrupting our market and are gonna have to pull to corner all our markets and take them over *(because you made sure we went broke with entitlement spending) and you spent us to death quadrupling education again and getting even worse results as is reality now and ever since the moment you guys took over Americas education system, and I had hoped the other side of the aisle would have joined us in cleaning their own house. Sadly they have barely lifted a finger, and we have started to lose the last bits of the rights we have. Once rights are taken away, they are gone for good. 128,000,000,000,000 dollars in unfunded liabilities, nothing for you guys to worry about, cuz you fixed the economy with all that trillions in debt we are left with, oh wait no you didn't, the recovery hasn't happened going on 6 years, and last quarter our GDP shrank, and if it shrinks again we will be in recession again. Looks like Progressive policies have garnered us our own lost decade. Still, you guys do nothing.

Your monetary policies and intentional neglect and ignorance of our public debt is extremely likely to get us invaded in the long run, and also extremely likely to crash our currency, and when that happens, the rest of the world is going to eat you alive, all your 'heartfelt policies' are going to get the exact opposite. Their borders will be closed to you, and if you try to cross, you get caught, everything you own will be taken from you and you are going straight to prison and will probably die there after being raped and used as a toy for as long as possible, because when you finally kill the American economy, the rest of the world is going to feel it, and they are gonna be lookin back at the tapes of the president and lookin at all you standing their clapping and calling for more money to be created out of thin air to yet again make some problem worse just with a multi-billion price tag and a new multi-billion entitlement, and you are going to look guilty as f*ck. The hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign aid you send to countries, trillions over the decades (lookin at you progressive neo-cons and Republicans) nobody is going to aid you, for the whole time you were having a blast spending other people's money and print even more money from thin air to hang onto your empire oppressing other peoples across the globe, you arrogantly and ignorantly forgot that it was important for money to be backed by something (other than 30 trillion in debt) and if it were backed by something then you couldn't have all your trillions in social programs and corporate welfare, and of course for you that is a priority over that money having any real value, and the countries that take over the new #1 and #2 and #3 spots...their money is going to be backed by gold, and then you literally will be wiping your ass wish cash because thats all it will be good for and all the real toilet paper goes to the people who pay with real money, none of it will go for fiat money, that would be like trading toilet paper for toilet paper. And as no good deed goes unpunished, you made sure to steal and sell and lease all America's gold and silver stockpiles, thus finally finishing off the things that made us strongest which was in our constitution that our money must be backed by gold and silver and can only be issued by Congress, and where you you be if I left out your Progressive revolution in 1913, thanks for the central bank, oh wow world war 1 starts less than a year later...weird, and the Great Depression, make sure to bow to Roosevelt for saving us after only 14 years and another world war. I'm laying this out because it's a pattern that is likely to repeat very soon. I'm saying yall are in for the shock of your lives when you think you have been buying friends and being liberal with our money giving it away freely never asking anything in return except for to be the overlord of that country/region and make sure our leaders friends get all the contracts and the citizens get your fresh scraps of exported inflation right into their weekly grocery bills every week. and opening the borders, they are going to laugh in your face, and they were laughing at you the entire time you gave yourself all kinds of credit for doing the progressive thing, when in reality you have no clothes and were destroying yourself all along. And you think you have been doing the right thing over the next decade concerning giving minorities all kinds of special rights and power and respect and love and apology and ass kissing.....when the demographic shifts and you are no longer the majority, you think you are going to be treated with respect and the same way you always treated them? You don't think everything you have will be considered 'stolen' whether it's true or not? Do you really believe that these people who have 5-6-7-8-9 babies, you don't know why? you should, because you paid a good portion of any earnings to raise them all. Look how you pick your politicians, you guys will have been in the solid habit of choosing people and making decisions ONLY on the color of skin, and you think that will change when you are up to bat? there are more children under 10 in the public development and trailer park up the street from me than there probably are in the 5 square mile radius. I sit behind the bus as 50 of them get off at the same stop, and the stay at home moms are there to get them. That's okay, go on believing it's silly to be worried, go on thinking that the rest of the world thinks just like you do, and lives in the same fantasy dream world you do, and has the same high social moral ground that only someone so spoiled rotten and of such erroneous white privilege could convince themselves they have, and think that other people around the world with REAL problems even understand what that means. There will probably be reality TV shows of american youtube videos showing spoiled brats complaining and complaining and bitching and moaning about not having the newest version of technology, and then their gonna make that child who is an adult watch that video everyday as they pick through electronic waste trying to find enough silver to recycle to eat for one more day, and everyone gets to point and laugh at you.

Here are the results of Progressive monetary policies and printing money and just charging it to the national debt and the future generation. in 10 years as the interest on our debt starts compounding in a major way, 25 cents of every dollar every American earns will be to pay interest on our national debt. with the remaining 75 cents of YOUR earnings, for roads, schools, defense, healthcare, social security, medicare, medicaid, state income tax, federal income tax, local tax, gas tax, sales tax, all other fees and permits, tabs, car payment, car insurance. How much you think is left for food and gas? Heat and electric? Water and sewage? garbage, cell phone, internet, cable/sattelite? Realize I haven't even brought up rent/mortage payment/insurance and your own personal health care plan???.....how much do you figure you will have left? This is what the next generation will be born into. And we are letting it happen.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby Nola_Lifer on Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:41 am

Slow cap for you PS =D> =D> Over the years you have truly shown yourself as the most out spoken idiot on the CC forum. It is great to come and check in every couple of months to see that there is still shit flowing from you mouth that you regurgitate from some idealist nonsense.

The Tea Party didn't win so much as the Republicans lost. The Repubs are going down the hole fast from all their previous f*ck ups and idiot statements from the past 10 or so years. I wouldn't go so far as to say "we are winners." More like just happen to be in the right place at the right time.

As far as the crap you spouted up above, nonsense. Utter nonsense. I mean shitting on immigrates and attacking the people of Islam continues to show how much of a racist bigot you are. I still don't understand why the heads of CC allow you to post here. You have your head so far up your ass and you just regurgitate your shit is like one big cycle that I hope one day will be clogged.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby notyou2 on Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:15 pm

Nola_Lifer wrote:Slow cap for you PS =D> =D> Over the years you have truly shown yourself as the most out spoken idiot on the CC forum. It is great to come and check in every couple of months to see that there is still shit flowing from you mouth that you regurgitate from some idealist nonsense.

The Tea Party didn't win so much as the Republicans lost. The Repubs are going down the hole fast from all their previous f*ck ups and idiot statements from the past 10 or so years. I wouldn't go so far as to say "we are winners." More like just happen to be in the right place at the right time.

As far as the crap you spouted up above, nonsense. Utter nonsense. I mean shitting on immigrates and attacking the people of Islam continues to show how much of a racist bigot you are. I still don't understand why the heads of CC allow you to post here. You have your head so far up your ass and you just regurgitate your shit is like one big cycle that I hope one day will be clogged.


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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby pimpdave on Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:52 pm

The Tea Party is very sneaky and also racist.
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby danfrank666 on Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:05 pm

My only issue with the tea party is this. They are setting the stage for 4 years of hillary. What is transpiring now amongst the righties should have happened 1st term. That wasn`t possible though. Now that we`re in year 6 , all the cards are face up . The fear mongers (rush,savage,etc) are all of a sudden RIGHT. and so the fun begins. Let us PRAY that it`s all sorted out in time. O:)
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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:08 pm

Phatscotty wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
mrswdk wrote:And why do those gays (or anyone else, for that matter) want to get married in the first place? Are they going to get their kids a Bar Mitzvah too, or would that be judged to trivialize and demean Judaic rituals?


Well, it's not just a ritual anymore; there are specific legal rights and benefits associated with getting married.


give the government an inch, they end up with the whole thing. Remember, separation of church n state, freedom of religion, until the state takes over, cuz, redistribution and fairness IE Progress the 14th trumps the 1st, trumps everything FTW

R.I.P. Liberty.


*shrug* I'm not the one who decided that a ceremony that was traditionally religious in nature should be co-opted to become a ceremony that is now mainly of civil importance. But it happened, and so the 14th amendment either demands marriages for no one (and maybe some sort of "civil union" thing to take care of the legal rights that people generally want) or marriages for everyone. Extending marriage rights to gay people doesn't violate the first amendment "more." If the first amendment was violated, it happened a long time ago. And by people who were religious and wanted to violate the first amendment for their own benefit.


Such a gentle way of putting how yall hijacked it and bragged about it in the process. Marriage is a religious institution, say you didn't decide that all you want, but it's the same as 'i'm not the one who wrote the bill of rights....so....' marriage always has been religious, until progressives decided we need to have redistribution of wealth through our tax code, and BOOM, here we are! Because taxes are involved, oh, yup, it's a human right now! sorry religion, but there is redistribution of income involved, too bad so sad. :(

It's clear that is exactly how progressives operate, and you pretend it's okay to start perverting things from their true meaning in every area you can. "but it happened' yeah, I wouldn't expect you to say anything else. I can tell you know how it went down and you don't want to deal with the reality that Progress is indeed anti-Liberty. 'shrug, I didn't invent Liberty, so F it!"

Bottom line, amendments are not supposed to go against other amendments. Hopefully now that you had a couple years to think about it you will concede I did in fact have a legitimate point that gay marriage will in fact chip away at the first amendment, and that's one of the two most important amendments that everybody knows about and understands are lynchpins of Freedom and Liberty. Oh but you couldn't believe that I was standing up for everyone rights then, oh no, it must be because Scotty is just a racist bigot and he hates, so i'm gonna hate him and people like them and not even listen to what they say, cuz anyone who disagrees with progressives, well heck they are barely even human and probly dont deserve those rights anyways.

per civil unions, that what we already had. that's what the gay-agenda said they wanted, and they wouldn't push for totally pressuring the government to hijack the institution, but in all fairness I think it's the government who exploited the gays on this one. 'It's all about who you love' Why don't you guys just come right out and say it, there is no room for thought anymore, all that matters is what makes you orgasm the hardest, or what people feel, because that is EXACTLY what Progressives have turn America into. We are no longer a land of laws and equal justice, we are now a land of whatever feels good at the moment do it and social justice. this is how yall did your part to destroy our first amendment rights, and in the end it was all based on where people like to stick their genitalia. F'ing bizarre.

You guys are WAY out there, taking the 14th amendment that freed the slaves and turn that into marriage is a human right????? and doesn't belong to the church anymore, cuz hey we just said so. we just took it. That's why our argument has always been correct about how taxation has the power to destroy. That's how the government, once some kind of benefit is invented out of thin air, all of a sudden becomes a right and destroys whatever used to be in it's place. I have to look at that and see the writing is on the wall for what was once a great country of rule and law and Freedom and Liberty with opportunity for all. I'm pretty sure we can all agree the opportunity part of that might never come back, and a large majority of us know we've lost so much Freedom there can't be much left anymore, Heck, every baby born in America is born into $193,000 in debt. Yes, that's all you guys. I have given LESS SPENDING LESS GOVERNMENT everything I had at all times through my life, I gave and we have given George Bush and overspending corrupt Republicans almost as much crap as I give Obama, but we were bitching about 300 and 400 billion deficits and now we have trillion+ dollar deficits back to back annually?? Of course the criticism is going to be much more fierce, but remember, that can't be true we care about debt and deficits, so it must be racism, and that's how you ended up contributing to the whole thing. And I'm sure at least history will mark that there were a group of American who did try to stop it, and looking back it will look like a whole sector of the German people standing up to and surrounding Hitler and tried to stop him in his tracks. Oh yeah wait, national socialism doesn't describe the new America at all, right????? wait, you're gonna call it 'state capitalism' oh how dandy.

And then hey, while you are at it, why don't you just go all the f'ing way with destroying the first amendment, and therefore basically all the rest (how can you defend your rights if you don't have the right to speak?????????????) and start banning hurtful words because they hurt people feelings. OH WAIT YOU ARE ALREADY DOING THAT TOO! TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S RACIAL, AND ONE RACE CAN'T SAY IT, BUT THE OTHER RACES CAN? Nobody else can use hurtful words against a gay, but if a gay says the exact same f'ing thing, then it's okay, cuz that person is gay. R.I.P. equal justice eh? I guarantee you will reap what you have sewn.

Go make up a new national anthem, because I'm not going to sit there like a idiot and get riled up at telling myself we are the land of the free, because we aren't. Sure, we still have our guns, but you guys are working double time on that one too, aren't ya??? And if Congress disagrees with you, you'll just use the nuclear option, and the president can just go around Congress whenever they want, since they disagree with you, and you are always right, therefore they are always wrong. Who even needs a Congress huh? Yeah Progressives are great American patriots lemme tell ya. And don't ever call out your own president when he so absolutely clearly breaks the law. the laws of our land are okay to break, if you dont like them. Just go right ahead and wipe your deuces with the bill of rights, not only do they not mean shit to you, but you had to make sure nobody else has any rights left either. Once the 1st and 2nd amendment are minimized and attacked enough, that's it, it's all over. LOOK AT WHERE THE F WE ARE RIGHT NOW! Freedom of speech (unless it's hurtful/unless it threatens the monopoly) freedom of religion (religion is dumb anyways/only reserved for non-Christians) freedom of the press (to have off the record closed door meetings with the president every week and spoonfeed the nation the white house talking points as fact with orders to laugh anyone off the stage that disagree with official state media) freedom to redress of grievances (oh well you are white so shut up you don't know what real problems are cry me a river whitey) The right to bear arms (yeah but you don't need that, cuz you said so, and we promise the government will never get out of hand and always tells the truth) That is where the F we are right now. Thank yall Progressives so much, your bleeding hearts are so f'ing glorious and I'm sure you feel great about yourselves.

I hope it bites you in the ass someday, HARD, and I don't just mean you, but I mean Wodruff, and Greekdog (Obama is Conservative!), and NotYou2, Andy, Pimpdave, all the people who couldn't figure out they were crapping their own rights away because they didn't want to believe Progressives were that nefarious and calculating, and only have people's best interest at heart, they wanted to be liked and fit in to the point they would back off their own principles, to the point yall argued principles and values and morals and heritage and tradition are stupid, of course unless it's a minorities heritage and traditions, THEN you have to name a f'ing holiday for them and close all schools and government and banks down don't ya? and then you want to blame something else for young people flipping out and shooting shit up, at the same time you make sure that children are not taught 'thou shall not murder'.

Insanity breeds insanity, and everything that made America great, Progressives have turned their backs on. Hope you are happy dealing with those consequences for the rest of your life. Letting the president get away with the IRS targeting certain groups, oh yeah, mark my mother f'ing words, that one is definitely gonna come back around many times over, but hey, it was the Tea Party he was targeting, so doing what got Nixon impeached....totally cool with yall! Go ahead and say nothing when the president sends our military to Libya and selling weapons to Syria without even telling Congress and while he is in a foreign country, and now that Iraq is totally FUBAR, go ahead and blame Congress for not being gone around by the president the times it's unpopular. Don't make a peep when our ambassador gets hung out to dry, but make sure when it's a traitor we are bringing home that everyone knows we don't leave our Americans behind. So long as you remember to point out the president said 'military Americans' because ambassadors are not military, so you got your bases covered.

Don't you dare blame the next president when they do the exact same things to you x2. I know ya will though, but the truly sad part is you will have destroyed the only people that were being consistent, and don't wonder where they are. They have probably all gone Galt. Let's see you people with the big mouths trying to spend everyone elses money on every little thing your heart desires, guess what, YOU are gonna be stuck with the tab. At least there will be a bit of poetic justice. Feel free to spend hundreds of billions of dollars we don't have (hey, just steal it from whoever ya want!) on welcoming in 40 million immigrants who have no desire to learn your language respect your flag or contribute to your society they only want to send all the money to their home country and fly their flag in your face, and wouldn't you guys be extra swell if you progressives just kept playing Demographic Gods and convincing yourselves eventually the different races with different cultures will just integrate on their own, except the complete opposite is happening and the different races self segregate but you just keep on with your little experiments because you want to be diverse, then to roll the red carpet out for 10 million Muslims who see America invading their 'home' countries and decide you are the great satan, who WILL set up loud speakers all throughout your neighborhoods and blast their prayers over entire cities as their religion will be protected but yours is not (already many precedents set for that), and don't even consider if there are any jobs or not, or if there is any food or water when they get here, just stack em up on top of each other like the president is doing now down in Texas, run up the trillions on free health care yall stupidly mocked as crazy for thinking there were death panels involved, when we now find out there are death panels for our veterans which deserve good health care the most by far. You guys are on the record defending Obamacare all the way eating the lies right out of his hands and going back for seconds, and it's already so clearly not doing anything close to what you said it would do. I will bet you just need another trillion dollars eh? Go ahead and cheer your guy every time he violates the Constitution and goes around Congress and drones whoever the hell they want and sends our troops and your children wherever the hell it will fatten them and their donors pockets, because it's your president, they don't have to follow the laws of the land, your president gets to make it up as they go. So don't you dare bitch when it comes around full circle. And where were your people voting when it came to smashing the 4th amendment and storing every citizens most personal information? Oh, gay marriage was more important, I forgot. I suppose you will start to get mad when it's a Republican doing to you even harder. And the bottom line every time the next president sticks it to ya? Well, the last president got away with it, how can we hold future president accountable for what past presidents were not even criticized for? Yup, that's yall too.

The Tea Party is going to continue to reform Washington as best we can for as long as possible for a peaceful solution. Just remember to destroy us and slander us as often as possible so we stay on the exact same track we are on just always moving 'forward' faster toward a 30 trillion dollar debt that the Chinese and Russians with their gold backed money are gonna send trillions of dollars of cash back into the US economy and your milk is gonna cost you 50 bucks a gallon and it will be chalk full of chemicals and hormones. As China and Russia are going to start making their military moves around the world and start disrupting our market and are gonna have to pull to corner all our markets and take them over *(because you made sure we went broke with entitlement spending) and you spent us to death quadrupling education again and getting even worse results as is reality now and ever since the moment you guys took over Americas education system, and I had hoped the other side of the aisle would have joined us in cleaning their own house. Sadly they have barely lifted a finger, and we have started to lose the last bits of the rights we have. Once rights are taken away, they are gone for good. 128,000,000,000,000 dollars in unfunded liabilities, nothing for you guys to worry about, cuz you fixed the economy with all that trillions in debt we are left with, oh wait no you didn't, the recovery hasn't happened going on 6 years, and last quarter our GDP shrank, and if it shrinks again we will be in recession again. Looks like Progressive policies have garnered us our own lost decade. Still, you guys do nothing.

Your monetary policies and intentional neglect and ignorance of our public debt is extremely likely to get us invaded in the long run, and also extremely likely to crash our currency, and when that happens, the rest of the world is going to eat you alive, all your 'heartfelt policies' are going to get the exact opposite. Their borders will be closed to you, and if you try to cross, you get caught, everything you own will be taken from you and you are going straight to prison and will probably die there after being raped and used as a toy for as long as possible, because when you finally kill the American economy, the rest of the world is going to feel it, and they are gonna be lookin back at the tapes of the president and lookin at all you standing their clapping and calling for more money to be created out of thin air to yet again make some problem worse just with a multi-billion price tag and a new multi-billion entitlement, and you are going to look guilty as f*ck. The hundreds of billions of dollars in foreign aid you send to countries, trillions over the decades (lookin at you progressive neo-cons and Republicans) nobody is going to aid you, for the whole time you were having a blast spending other people's money and print even more money from thin air to hang onto your empire oppressing other peoples across the globe, you arrogantly and ignorantly forgot that it was important for money to be backed by something (other than 30 trillion in debt) and if it were backed by something then you couldn't have all your trillions in social programs and corporate welfare, and of course for you that is a priority over that money having any real value, and the countries that take over the new #1 and #2 and #3 spots...their money is going to be backed by gold, and then you literally will be wiping your ass wish cash because thats all it will be good for and all the real toilet paper goes to the people who pay with real money, none of it will go for fiat money, that would be like trading toilet paper for toilet paper. And as no good deed goes unpunished, you made sure to steal and sell and lease all America's gold and silver stockpiles, thus finally finishing off the things that made us strongest which was in our constitution that our money must be backed by gold and silver and can only be issued by Congress, and where you you be if I left out your Progressive revolution in 1913, thanks for the central bank, oh wow world war 1 starts less than a year later...weird, and the Great Depression, make sure to bow to Roosevelt for saving us after only 14 years and another world war. I'm laying this out because it's a pattern that is likely to repeat very soon. I'm saying yall are in for the shock of your lives when you think you have been buying friends and being liberal with our money giving it away freely never asking anything in return except for to be the overlord of that country/region and make sure our leaders friends get all the contracts and the citizens get your fresh scraps of exported inflation right into their weekly grocery bills every week. and opening the borders, they are going to laugh in your face, and they were laughing at you the entire time you gave yourself all kinds of credit for doing the progressive thing, when in reality you have no clothes and were destroying yourself all along. And you think you have been doing the right thing over the next decade concerning giving minorities all kinds of special rights and power and respect and love and apology and ass kissing.....when the demographic shifts and you are no longer the majority, you think you are going to be treated with respect and the same way you always treated them? You don't think everything you have will be considered 'stolen' whether it's true or not? Do you really believe that these people who have 5-6-7-8-9 babies, you don't know why? you should, because you paid a good portion of any earnings to raise them all. Look how you pick your politicians, you guys will have been in the solid habit of choosing people and making decisions ONLY on the color of skin, and you think that will change when you are up to bat? there are more children under 10 in the public development and trailer park up the street from me than there probably are in the 5 square mile radius. I sit behind the bus as 50 of them get off at the same stop, and the stay at home moms are there to get them. That's okay, go on believing it's silly to be worried, go on thinking that the rest of the world thinks just like you do, and lives in the same fantasy dream world you do, and has the same high social moral ground that only someone so spoiled rotten and of such erroneous white privilege could convince themselves they have, and think that other people around the world with REAL problems even understand what that means. There will probably be reality TV shows of american youtube videos showing spoiled brats complaining and complaining and bitching and moaning about not having the newest version of technology, and then their gonna make that child who is an adult watch that video everyday as they pick through electronic waste trying to find enough silver to recycle to eat for one more day, and everyone gets to point and laugh at you.

Here are the results of Progressive monetary policies and printing money and just charging it to the national debt and the future generation. in 10 years as the interest on our debt starts compounding in a major way, 25 cents of every dollar every American earns will be to pay interest on our national debt. with the remaining 75 cents of YOUR earnings, for roads, schools, defense, healthcare, social security, medicare, medicaid, state income tax, federal income tax, local tax, gas tax, sales tax, all other fees and permits, tabs, car payment, car insurance. How much you think is left for food and gas? Heat and electric? Water and sewage? garbage, cell phone, internet, cable/sattelite? Realize I haven't even brought up rent/mortage payment/insurance and your own personal health care plan???.....how much do you figure you will have left? This is what the next generation will be born into. And we are letting it happen.


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Re: The Tea Party Strikes Again?

Postby notyou2 on Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:37 pm

the Republocrats strike again
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