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There is a reason why this would not be trivial. The fact that you don't know why makes me think you are a skimmer or suspicious.The1exile wrote:but it should be trivial to invent a pokemon name of an alternative, preferably without type advantage, so I'm not sure it holds up completely. Maybe we will get word of mod though.

Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
I was going to do this a few pages back but Tim decided to drop the ball. I'm mostly suss about Serbia, Talapus, exile, and in just on the last page, Skoffin. Skoffin I know is a very good player that know how's to deflect attention away from herself and even to deflect attention away from her allies, she's flown UTR the whole game while the majority of other players have had some sort of scrutiny on them (myself included).Fircoal wrote:This is what I mean by being wishy washy. This doesn't look like debate for the sake of trying to find out what's up. It looks like someone who doesn't want to take a stance on what's happening. Even if you don't want to vote someone for bandwagon reasons can't you at least tell us who is the scummiest in your eye currently?
See how she has tried to deflect attention back onto Tim, who has come out as a survivor. With Wing and Nark also banding up to protect him, it's unlikely that many people will be willing to try and go after Tim again. Especially as those two players have been pretty distasteful and pretty assholish the whole game as well.Skoffin wrote:Something I just thought to mention in regard to Tim:
We are all quick to agree he must be town because of what he revealed regarding pokemon, but this may be in haste. The only thing he has confirmed is that he is in fact a pokemon, but not necessarily a wild one. Once again I will point out that Team Rocket will have both trainers and pokemon. Likely Team Rocket Trainers and town trainers have similar roles/actions, just as Team Rocket pokemon and town pokemon will have similar role PMs/actions.
Interesting about his Vulpix claim though. There is a famous Vulpix owned by Brock, a very well known and popular character, so it seems strange to me that a Vulpix would be 'wild' and not assigned to Brock.
I wanna know how you get this? I understand how you think TWO and I are connected but I'm interested to see how you think Fircoal is part of it as well. To me he has been flying under the radar as well, just not as successfully as Skof.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:TWao, Skittles and Fircoal appear banded together imo
I'm agreeing with Kwan here, that was a huge slip up by Exile. Previously he has gone after trainers (why?) and now he doesn't understand the type advantage of night work for Pokemon. This leads me to believe he definitely isn't a Pokemon, he isn't a trainer, maybe he could be another town role, but I'm willing to bet he is a scum. vote: Exile.kwanton wrote:The reason I say I suspect you of skimming is because I would imagine this is information which every player was informed of. Just by nature, it seems like a very important mechanic. I'm not saying what that reason is, just in case I'm wrong and not everyone knows about it.
KraphtOne wrote:when you sign up a new account one of the check boxes should be "do you want to foe colton24 (it is highly recommended) "

KraphtOne wrote:when you sign up a new account one of the check boxes should be "do you want to foe colton24 (it is highly recommended) "
I really don't see why that is a fact and I already asked why that is a fact. Please enlighten us, because scum readings like this without explanation can lead to only one assumption... that you're protecting or covering them and that is not good. Just explain yourself and/or write your reasons please.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:My opinion on TWO, Skittles and Fircoal is an opinion. My non scum list is fact.
Finally.Skittles! wrote: I don't think this is the case however, so that's why I'm moving on to try and figure out who Team Rocket are and how we can win this game (and god forbid go to the next day).
Wow you just made this way too easy. I went back a few pages and tried to find this reasoning, it really came down to 'just reasons, don't question it." Which then got me thinking as to why you've been so proactive about Doom and BuJ being town for the past 10 or so pages, even going to tell Nark and Doom to shut up at one point cause you were afraid they were going to leak too much. Which, in the end, they did.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Finally.Skittles! wrote: I don't think this is the case however, so that's why I'm moving on to try and figure out who Team Rocket are and how we can win this game (and god forbid go to the next day).
The majority believe that I am telling the truth, so there is no perogative or incebtive for me to elaborate.
Indeed as I have said to Legionairre, there is limited incentive for me to scumhunt strongly. So dont sit about waiting for me to do so.
If you guys stop asking me for information, I will stop with the sarcastic posting. Its very simple.
This quote here actually contradicts what Tim said earlier -DoomYoshi wrote:kwanton, you are one dangerous mofo right now. "Outlasting Team Rocket" isn't a 3rd party survivor win condition. That is the definition of a town win condition. Now that you have planted that bullshit idea in the thread, it will be hard to dissipate. 3rd party survivor wins whether Team Rocket or Town wins.
Read again what Tim said. 'Outlast Team Rocket'. Now, if Wing, Doom, Nark and BuJ were actually wild Pokemon they would have the same win condition as this. Because I have this (I'll be crucified for saying this but whatever) - I am a wild pokemon and word to word that is my win condition.TimWoodbury wrote:PS my win con was to live till the end and outlast team rocket... i was was testing dakky to see if he would skum slip and show he was team ocket.
KraphtOne wrote:when you sign up a new account one of the check boxes should be "do you want to foe colton24 (it is highly recommended) "
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Talapus wrote:I'm far more pissed that mandy and his thought process were right from the get go....damn you mandy.
While you are absolutely right about role quoting being usually being against Mafia etiquette, I explicitly allow it in the rules (just as I have in NJO).nagerous wrote: Please do not quote role PMs or win conditions even in paraphrasing format.
It is a massive no-no and can get you blacklisted from future games

Talapus wrote:I'm far more pissed that mandy and his thought process were right from the get go....damn you mandy.
It doesn't mean he has to be. Tim is a survivor role, it doesn't matter to anyone if he is lynched. For Wing to jump onto role claiming as well straight after is a way to tactfully place himself in the spotlight and make sure town passes over him. As Kwanton said a few pages ago, lynching survivors has no point and benefits no one, and their role in the game itself is pretty poor. Mandy has been kind enough to change some mechanics with how survivors work in this game to give us something to do at night - as Tim has already explained.BuJaber wrote:Skittles... please read back through the last few pages, because you're not helping anyone. I don't know a lot... but I know that for Wing to jump straight into backing up Tim like that he HAS to be a wild pokemon too, which means that Tim is too. (If they are both scum then Wing would probably just bite the bullet and let Tim fall and sacrifice a buddy. Scum do that all the time). You claiming wild pokemon then voting for wing doesn't make a lot of sense to me, so could you explain that to me please? Because you two should be agreeing if you are telling usthe truth.
Wing is an ally to town. If you're not seeing this you are hurting us. So please let's band together and figure out who the scum are instead of focusing on 3rd party. Thank you strike wolf for seeing this.
KraphtOne wrote:when you sign up a new account one of the check boxes should be "do you want to foe colton24 (it is highly recommended) "
KraphtOne wrote:when you sign up a new account one of the check boxes should be "do you want to foe colton24 (it is highly recommended) "
No the majority don't think you are telling the truth, if you actually read the posts they are wanting you to elaborate. So you are saying that you don't think you need hunt for scum to win the game?WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Finally.Skittles! wrote: I don't think this is the case however, so that's why I'm moving on to try and figure out who Team Rocket are and how we can win this game (and god forbid go to the next day).
The majority believe that I am telling the truth, so there is no perogative or incebtive for me to elaborate.
Indeed as I have said to Legionairre, there is limited incentive for me to scumhunt strongly. So dont sit about waiting for me to do so.
If you guys stop asking me for information, I will stop with the sarcastic posting. Its very simple.
The above quote both highlights you thinking that you have influence with your posts and the bold part is a very sly attempt at role fishing. Big 'ol FOS on you wing.WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:We have a trainer here. You just painted a target on YOUR back. I am removing the target from those I name.
This is an unusually short and vague post for you Stike, what exactly would they counter claim about his role claim?strike wolf wrote:Tim also stated the win condition for wild pokemon. Wing and the others currently on his list of pokemon prove this by their non-counter of Tim.
]Skittles! wrote:Wow you just made this way too easy. I went back a few pages and tried to find this reasoning, it really came down to 'just reasons, don't question it." Which then got me thinking as to why you've been so proactive about Doom and BuJ being town for the past 10 or so pages, even going to tell Nark and Doom to shut up at one point cause you were afraid they were going to leak too much. Which, in the end, they did.
This quote here actually contradicts what Tim said earlier -DoomYoshi wrote:kwanton, you are one dangerous mofo right now. "Outlasting Team Rocket" isn't a 3rd party survivor win condition. That is the definition of a town win condition. Now that you have planted that bullshit idea in the thread, it will be hard to dissipate. 3rd party survivor wins whether Team Rocket or Town wins.
Read again what Tim said. 'Outlast Team Rocket'. Now, if Wing, Doom, Nark and BuJ were actually wild Pokemon they would have the same win condition as this. Because I have this (I'll be crucified for saying this but whatever) - I am a wild pokemon and word to word that is my win condition.TimWoodbury wrote:PS my win con was to live till the end and outlast team rocket... i was was testing dakky to see if he would skum slip and show he was team ocket.
Looks like Wing's list is just what I thought it was - scum buddies budding up to a wild Pokemon and trying to claim they have all the same win conditions. Wing you have been trying to wiggle out of being analysed and refusing to answer questions constantly, now I know why.
unvote, vote Wing
FOS Nark, Doom and BuJ
BuJaber....please read back what Skittles posted about Doom, he has a very good point, and by association Wing is implicated as well.BuJaber wrote:Skittles... please read back through the last few pages, because you're not helping anyone. I don't know a lot... but I know that for Wing to jump straight into backing up Tim like that he HAS to be a wild pokemon too, which means that Tim is too. (If they are both scum then Wing would probably just bite the bullet and let Tim fall and sacrifice a buddy. Scum do that all the time). You claiming wild pokemon then voting for wing doesn't make a lot of sense to me, so could you explain that to me please? Because you two should be agreeing if you are telling us the truth.
This is as well, is just plain bad, show me proof that Wing is an ally and I'll back down. "If you're not seeing this you are hurting us." again with the "if you are not with us then are against us" weak ass thinking, then saying we should band together, what we should just blindly trust Wing and his wee pals? Don't think so. Also if you weren't skimming you would have noticed that your buddy Wing is not interested in hunting scum.BuJaber wrote:Wing is an ally to town. If you're not seeing this you are hurting us. So please let's band together and figure out who the scum are instead of focusing on 3rd party. Thank you strike wolf for seeing this.
I'm really struggling to see the logic here, so because we can't see some supposed subtle clues that makes us scum? Smells to me like a very poor effort to throw suspicion elsewhere. See instead you could lead the way in "banding together" as you said before providing the information that is so well hidden that only a select few seem to know where to look.BuJaber wrote:Legionnaire and samlen are a bit suspicious though. And now dakky is too. They're not picking up on the subtle clues which makes me think their role PM's weren't very innocent.
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:I dont care about your life in this game. I am actively setting you up to be nightkilled by others tonight.
First, read the rules. The second rule says that Tim won't be modkilled.BuJaber wrote:More thoughts before I forget them
I feel that nag's latest posts aren't particularly scummy.. just someone voicing their opinions and questions... so while the aggression seemed to have come out of nowhere... I can see Wing having that effect on people lol. So as far as I'm concerned nag is neutral right now.
Legionnaire and samlen are a bit suspicious though. And now dakky is too. They're not picking up on the subtle clues which makes me think their role PM's weren't very innocent.
Doom's statement about either you have townie trainer cult or you have townie pokemon is interesting, and nag is saying it can be both. Doom in your scenario, would you say scum have recruiting ability too? Because if there are two cult-like factions but only one of them was informed (knew each other from PM) then that would be completely unbalanced. This is very important because of the wild pokemon claims that are coming up.