Rights

mrswdk · Post by **mrswdk** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:06 am

You are allowed to pick one human right for your country to enshrine the protection of in its legislature. Gogogo.

tkr4lf · Post by **tkr4lf** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:47 am

I mean, I guess if I have to pick one, then its "The right to economic and physical security."

But ideally, both would be protected.

KoolBak · Post by **KoolBak** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:49 am

Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....

Post by **Dukasaur** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:06 am

The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.

mrswdk · Post by **mrswdk** » Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:00 am

KoolBak wrote:Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....

No, the first one is a government that provides everyone with economic and physical security.

Thorthoth · Post by **Thorthoth** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:35 pm

Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.

So Duk, basically you want economic & physical security, AND personal freedom of speech and behavior, ...but only for your chosen few, just like on CC, right?
That is called oligarchy.

waauw · Post by **waauw** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:58 pm

Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.

Only in developed nations. The two options seem more like two pieces of a step-by-step plan to prosperity.

waauw · Post by **waauw** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:00 pm

KoolBak wrote:Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....

Depends on how you interpret it. Basic economic security can also be accomplished through a strong healthy jobs market.

riskllama · Post by **riskllama** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:08 pm

Thorthoth wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.

So Duk, basically you want economic & physical security, AND personal freedom of speech and behavior, ...but only for your chosen few, just like on CC, right?
That is called oligarchy.[/quote

careful there, skip - it's them very same oligarchs that are standing between you and the permaban hammer right now...

notyou2 · Post by **notyou2** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:48 pm

The options are:

A. China

B. Not China

Thorthoth · Post by **Thorthoth** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:12 pm

riskllama wrote:
Thorthoth wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.

So Duk, basically you want economic & physical security, AND personal freedom of speech and behavior, ...but only for your chosen few, just like on CC, right?
That is called oligarchy.

careful there, skip - it's them very same oligarchs that are standing between you and the permaban hammer right now...

''Oh NO?!?" :lol:

Hey, look bud, they might kill me but they won't turn me into a kow-towing mod whore like you.
I mean seriously llam, you should just get 'asskisser' tattooed on your forehead.

P.S. I fixed that quote box you screwed up too.

armati · Post by **armati** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:18 pm

YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS - George Carlin
https://youtu.be/hWiBt-pqp0E

Thorthoth · Post by **Thorthoth** » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:21 pm

armati wrote:YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS - George Carlin
https://youtu.be/hWiBt-pqp0E

Almost, the one truly inalienable right is the Right to Be Dissatisfied. Everything else is either a privilege or a crime, depending on P.O.V.

DoomYoshi · Post by **DoomYoshi** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:31 am

I'd be happy with the right to implement suggestions

TA1LGUNN3R · Post by **TA1LGUNN3R** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:11 am

armati wrote:YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS - George Carlin
https://youtu.be/hWiBt-pqp0E

Amen

gendotte · Post by **gendotte** » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:35 pm

That is a Hobson's Choice. They are both vital.

theblackjesus · Post by **theblackjesus** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:39 am

Why not both?

mrswdk · Post by **mrswdk** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:05 am

theblackjesus wrote:Why not both?

Finally, the black Jesus has arrived on CC!

riskllama · Post by **riskllama** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:48 am

I suspect he's been here before, mrs... :-k

mrswdk · Post by **mrswdk** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:58 am

You think it's the spirit of someone who died for our sins?

Neoteny · Post by **Neoteny** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:33 pm

I am legit shocked that username was available.

DirtyDishSoap · Post by **DirtyDishSoap** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:22 pm

Neoteny wrote:I am legit shocked that username was available.

You'd think owen would have jumped on that name just so no one can have it.

I hope it's Bogan. Please be Bogan.

gendotte · Post by **gendotte** » Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:47 pm

You can't have one without the other.

warmonger1981 · Post by **warmonger1981** » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:35 pm

waauw wrote:
KoolBak wrote:Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....

Depends on how you interpret it. Basic economic security can also be accomplished through a MILITARY.

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