Racism allowed toawrds white people in GC...?

[NomadPatriot]

hmmm

[NomadPatriot]

it isn't about elaterate Evil semp.. it's about the subject of the terminology being allowed... I clearly just noted where another user who is not Elaterate used the term hillbilly in a derogatory manner... so why are you not addressing that part of this. .why are you intentionally trying to push a narrative that it's some grudge I have againist Elaterate. ?

the subject isn't about a single person .. it is about the notion that ethnic slurs directed towards any other race except whites are a ban-able offense. If anyone said " ( any CC verified Ethnic Slur) is not pure" they would most likely would get banned... correct..?
but when I point out clearly a known ethnic slur is being used towards whites in a hateful manner by someone who is not elaterate. . I am told to shut up and deal with it.. 'I am wanting to be offended'. by you.. a moderator ..

you made a statement saying " I feel that if you want to be offended then you will be offended. NomadPatriot and Elaterate don't seem to like each other. That issue has been addressed but to no avail. Would NomadPatriot have been offended if it wasn't Elaterate that is being accused of this crime?"

I proved that statement of yours wrong. and answered the question you posed by posting facts showing it had nothing to do solely with Elaterate.. yet you do not address it..

I see attempting to engage in a discussion about this issue with you , the 'mediator' , directly will never go anywhere.. you already have your stated opinion of me and what you perceive to be my motives.. regardless. you will never change even when your narrative gets disproven

[Elaterate]

Hey Mr. Perfect who always claims he never calls people names....

2019-03-01 10:53:53 - NomadPatriot: your a lying piece of sh...t craig..
2019-03-01 11:06:46 - NomadPatriot: after i initially took the middle east per our truce. i did not attack you.. nto once. you attacked me & green .. i killed red in round 34, round 35. you decided to attack me .. again. invading the middle east and busting the truce.. your a piece of sh...


Flaming is the online act of posting insults, often laced with profanity or other offensive.... No Flaming is a rule right?

Or where you not trying to be offensive or insulting?

No flaming is not a rule. Game chat is quite liberal. Don't be so pathetic lol. You're not seriously offended over someone saying "you're a piece of shit" so don't pretend otherwise. Presumably, this random Nomad guy genuinely thinks hillbilly is a racial slur, so it's understandable why he'd be offended even if he's wrong.

I never said I was offended by it... NP said the mods where being hypocrites and he constantly states in GC that he never calls anyone names and that he never breaks the rules so I was pointing out how he was being a hypocrite

Am I reading this wrong then.....

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[nietzsche]

stop polluting this forum. take it to C&A.

wankers.

[Elaterate]

and since elaterate decided to quote me. .I will return the favor..

I will quote Elaterate's GC post since he is trying to say hillbilly isn't a racial/ ethnic slur.. which is odd considering he directly says hillbillies are a race / ethnicity. he clearly says good things about this ethnic group... but according to him the term hillbilly has nothing to do with race or ethnicity.. ??

" Elaterate: I wish I was born a Hillbilly... best race/ethnicity out there "

This is called sarcasm... I can give you the definition if needed


Why not address anything I have asked you?

[TeeGee]

This topic is currently being discussed amongst Chat mods, some senior mods and admin.

If anybody can give me reason why the terms hillbilly, hick and redneck should be added to words not allowed in GC then please do so. Please make sure these links are from reputable sources.
Also will accept the same for why these words should be allowed.

NP has already sent me a few links, thanks.

[nietzsche]

no way.. how are we gonna address karel, sbbonk and to an extent rop and chatstevens then??

[Elaterate]

the Term Hillbilly is a ethnic slur towards white people. .Elaterate knows this as I have pointed it out to him several times in the past..

Unless I have agreed with you I don't see how you can saw I "know this"... try again

[Elaterate]

Remember NP's whole argument is based on how "context doesn't matter"...


http://wildflourskitchen.com/2014/09/24 ... -sandwich/

Nobody would be allowed to mention in GC that their favorite sandwich is a Hillbilly Club?

Nobody would be allowed to mention what a great time they had at Hillbilly's? - 6000 N 10th St, McAllen, Texas 78504

Nobody would be allowed to mention how they are part of this club?... https://www.theroyalhillbillyclub.nl/

Nobody would be allowed to mention how they ran this race?.... https://www.halfmarathons.net/washingto ... -marathon/

Can't talk about that you got good coffee here?..... https://www.facebook.com/hillbilly.espresso/

Can't talk about having a good time here.... https://smokymountains.com/gatlinburg/t ... atlinburg/

[riskllama]

no way.. how are we gonna address karel, sbbonk and to an extent rop and chatstevens then??

just call them a bunch of wankers... .

[NomadPatriot]

teegee.. I think all of the mods should have a discussion.. because Evil Semp just gave Llama a loophole for GC..

Evil Semp told me this " Why not FOE or mute Elaterate? You can't be offended if you don't read what he has to say. FOE him, mute him and block his ability to send you PM's.[/quote]"

so if Llama using the word Wanker is offensive .. he should not get a ban.. people should just simply foe him... so they do not get offended..

( I can not believe I just posted a defense for llama....)

[riskllama]

don't drag me into your mess, NP...

[riskllama]

wanker.

[NomadPatriot]

ethnic slurs are established by the enough people of a certain race saying " people are using this phrase to describe my race in a derogatory way, it is offensive & it shouldn't be used..." typically everyone agrees that if even a minority of the people of that race are saying they are offended, steps should be taken to ensure the word is not allowed to be used to describe the race of that person using that phrase...
whether it is being used in a derogatory or non-derogatory manner..

the N-word describing black people,
the F-word describing gay people ,
the S-word describing Latino people,
the C-word describing Asian people..
the W-word describing the mods ..
no matter what the context is.. those words are not allowed .. if you just log into GC and write any of those words at random without any context, not directed towards anyone at all.. you get a ban correct...?

but when it comes to white people.. it seems those rules no longer apply...

I am white.. I am telling everyone the word hillbilly is offensive to me because it is describing my race in a derogatory way... many others outside of CC have also noted it is an derogatory ethnic slur.. it is widely noted as being a racial / ethnic slur. regardless of what application it is being applied too... some black people are not offended by the N-word,, they use it themselves. .it is in their song lyrics.. it is used to describe their friends. but the word is the n-word.. and enough people said it was offensive and it is banned .. as it should be...

I ask hillbilly be removed from use In GC... if certain people do not agree. then maybe the question isn't why do I want it banned.. maybe the question should be.. what is the race of the people who do not want it banned and promote it's use... every race can be racist.. it's not just a white phenomenon..

[Elaterate]

When someone uses it to "describe your race" it's understandable that some people could be too soft to handle the word and therefore be offended.... BUT you where screaming racism when I used it to describe music and again screamed racism after I explained the context.

"the F-word describing gay people"..... someone from Britain can't say they're going to smoke a fag?

[Jdsizzleslice]

As a member of the hillbilly nation myself, I find it appropriate and quite normal for myself and other hillbillies to call each other hillbillies. If a Northerner calls me a hillbilly, it is derogatory, completely called for, and even sometimes quite ok to provoke violence towards that individual. Only Southerners can call each other hillbillies, and it be ok.

[riskllama]

you're from Hoover aintcha, JarJar?

[CatchersMitt14]

As a member of the hillbilly nation myself, I find it appropriate and quite normal for myself and other hillbillies to call each other hillbillies. If a Northerner calls me a hillbilly, it is derogatory, completely called for, and even sometimes quite ok to provoke violence towards that individual. Only Southerners can call each other hillbillies, and it be ok.

Agreed, it's derogatory and meant to imply the person has a subpar level of intelligence. The inverse also being offensive, when a southerner refers to someone as a yankee. It's said out of hate and anger over issues from the past.

Having lived in both northern and southern states, I've been called both. Neither is acceptable and is meant to make the person feel like trash when used.

[riskllama]

what's the etiquette when the person you are insulting is actually trash? what then?

[nietzsche]

in the rest of the world, for those americans that haven't gotten out of their country, if you are called american it's derogatory. not all the times.. but many times. it happens in south america, and it happens in europe, particularly in eastern europe. honestly they hear you speaking english and say.. "oh.. you're american....".. but as soon as you tell them you're from mexico, they get happy and smile and say something like "ohhh MEXICO!! tequila!! ay ay ay".

for a lot of people when they use the word american it's meant in a derogatory way, meaning interchangeably: loud, rude, fat, ignorant, etc.

so I say we ban the word "american" from chat too.



we're listening to a guy that has a picture depicting the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki, where over 200,000 innocent civilian died. but yes, lets make more rules without considering the real intent behind those rules.

bunch of wankers.

[riskllama]

nietzsche wins this thread... .

[NomadPatriot]

hillbilly music
(uncountable) (obsolete, to the 1930s, US) A mix of Appalachian, Southern and western music, performed by rural white people in a range of styles for commercial recording in the early United States popular music industry; the precursor to country music.

[riskllama]

that's just wanker music, NP...

[Caymanmew]

ethnic slurs are established by the enough people of a certain race saying " people are using this phrase to describe my race in a derogatory way, it is offensive & it shouldn't be used..." typically everyone agrees that if even a minority of the people of that race are saying they are offended, steps should be taken to ensure the word is not allowed to be used to describe the race of that person using that phrase...
whether it is being used in a derogatory or non-derogatory manner..

the N-word describing black people,
the F-word describing gay people ,
the S-word describing Latino people,
the C-word describing Asian people..
the W-word describing the mods ..
no matter what the context is.. those words are not allowed .. if you just log into GC and write any of those words at random without any context, not directed towards anyone at all.. you get a ban correct...?

but when it comes to white people.. it seems those rules no longer apply...

I am white.. I am telling everyone the word hillbilly is offensive to me because it is describing my race in a derogatory way... many others outside of CC have also noted it is an derogatory ethnic slur.. it is widely noted as being a racial / ethnic slur. regardless of what application it is being applied too... some black people are not offended by the N-word,, they use it themselves. .it is in their song lyrics.. it is used to describe their friends. but the word is the n-word.. and enough people said it was offensive and it is banned .. as it should be...

I ask hillbilly be removed from use In GC... if certain people do not agree. then maybe the question isn't why do I want it banned.. maybe the question should be.. what is the race of the people who do not want it banned and promote it's use... every race can be racist.. it's not just a white phenomenon..

Here is your problem....

From Dictionary.com
N-Word: a contemptuous term for a black or dark-skinned person
F-Word: a contemptuous term used to refer to a male homosexual.
S-Word: a contemptuous term used to refer to a Spanish-American person.
Hillbilly: a term used to refer to a person from a backwoods or other remote area, especially from the mountains of the southern U.S.
Hick: an unsophisticated, boorish, and provincial person; rube.
Redneck: 1. an uneducated white farm laborer, especially from the South. 2. a bigot or reactionary, especially from the rural working class.

You see the difference between them? The first 3 are used to negatively describe people simply on their race or sexuality. The other 3 describe specific people based on where they live, how they act, and what they do for work. And it is not describing it in a negative way. Although like anything with context it can be used negatively.

For example i could say "ya, he is a politician, it is no surprise he does that." and with that line alone you can't tell what i mean by it. I could be saying replying to someone saying "he is very generous to the community and always spearheading ways to help the community" or they could of said "He lied and stole money on under the table deals".

In one example i'm suggesting it is natural for politicians to have a large role in helping the community in the other i suggest it is natural to assume a politician is lying and making under the table deals. CONTEXT... SEE?

Also i must ask you keep me out of your little fight for justice. As a urban, white, male i find it offensive to suggest that i could be in any way offended by a term that describe country people. If you really feel the need to argue then argue for your country folk as long as your rural internet allows but please put away your race card.

[NomadPatriot]

Neitz '" we're listening to a guy that has a picture depicting the bombing of hiroshima and nagasaki, where over 200,000 innocent civilian died."

you know … because there was a boat right there to take the picture.. it is not a avatar pic of a random nuclear test explosion.. it's the ground level view of a single nuclear bomb blowing up 2 separate japans cities about a week's time frame apart... on 2 different islands..

ok Nietz. ok..